How can you use those clearly political terms as insults? I don't understand.
1) Know nothing about any of the ideologies.
2) Assume that they are all ideologies supporting mass murder and the end of freedom.
3) Be a moron in general.
How can you use those clearly political terms as insults? I don't understand.
I saw this thread yesterday, and thought I should think it over before I decided to reply.
Then, I see your reply, which is basically what I was going to say in a nutshell.
In the process of government trying to create the ideal of social justice, in trying to legislate a level playing field for all, it cannot accomplish this without being discriminatory itself.
Affirmative Action is a perfect example.
I tend to lean Libertarian.
I believe our government should be run as it was intended and set up by the founding fathers.
Other than providing for the common defense, providing basic services such as infrastructure, it should have a hands off approach to governing.
But, the 2 main parties have everything so tied up and f'd up that there is no going back. I make little differentiation between the Democratic and Republican parties, they all suck.
Still don't get it.
The only reason anyone worked together under the Nazi party was because they were glad to have scapegoats to make themselves feel superior to after an embarrassing end to WWI for Germany.
The conditions were prime for Hitler to be accepted and championed. The country was in shambles, people were desperate and losing hope, and felt themselves the losers of the world. Hitler stepped up in all his passion and made them feel powerful under his guidance. If anything, I'd say Nazi Germany just goes to show that under the worst conditions, the majority become ruthless spineless sheep.
As for visual aspects.. Yes. Those yellow Star of David patches were certainly fashionably worn in the streets. Went quite nicely with the smashed in windows of Jewish businesses as well.
Not to mention those cozy smoke arising from the concentration camps.
But those uniforms the SS wore were pretty sharp!
(forgive my sarcasm. But come on.)
I thought this was about ideology, anyway. I'm having a hard time separating the merits of the Nazi's organization from their ideology.
I lean in the direction of the left, but am flexible on most issues. I see politics as having so many levels and perspectives that it is nearly impossible to know anything for absolute certain. My positions on most political topics shift based on new information. I often am frustrated by politics because I know there is a significant amount of propaganda on most topics and from most news sources now. It is so filled with manipulation that is easy to spot. It leaves me primarily uncertain. I can see some advantage of having whoever is in power to be subject to an election rather than being a tycoon who cannot be taken out of power.
Yeah I agree. I don't think personality type has a lot to do with a person's political ties. Upbringing and life experiences play a big part.Totally disagree, I know other INFjs who are also not liberals. Its all i how you are raised.
Yeah I agree. I don't think personality type has a lot to do with a person's political ties. Upbringing and life experiences play a big part.
You don't need to get so heated. The point to why I created this thread is because I see many trends that go hand and hand in with ones MBTI type. But keep in mind, it is a trend, not a parameter. Despite my love of putting everything in an iron box, I don't do that as often as it might seem. Of course people aren't going to fit this mold, or other molds, just because they are an INFJ. Your an example with this trend. I have quite a few things that I don't align with on most of the INFJ's here. Trends mean that most will fit the mold, but not all.
but nobody's SAID that infjs are supposed to be a certain way, so there's no reason to get angry that this thread exists.I understand where you are coming from indigo, when I said that I didn't mean to imply you, you have been nothing but level headed since I got here. But what I am saying is that this thread IMO smacks of forum danger in that if we can convince everyone that INFJs are SUPPOSED to be this that or the other thing then we have an effective tool for ostracizing the ones that disagree with us politically. I have seen this done before elsewhere. Not saying you are doing it.
I am not angry, merely weary. When I look at something I usually look into the future and see the possibilities based on things I know Whether factually or intuitively. That's all I was doing. And people don't "say" INFJs are supposed to be anything, they just assume it or imply it. I was once told that I was definitely not an INFJ that I was possibly an ISFJ because I disagreed with someone politically. Because INFJs are into "this, that, and the other thing".
So I am expressing my weariness in a half hearted attempt to bring a level of awareness to people.
Every single person can be placed on a political graph, and be pegged into sub groups.
ENFPs are idealistic but don't have the patience for politics imo.
In a democratic society, reality lies in the moderate center, as it should when diverse people get together to make laws through compromise and negotiation.