Mental Muscle Diagram Indicator | Page 10 | INFJ Forum

Mental Muscle Diagram Indicator

Can anyone explain why mine are pretty much the same?

yeah, it's making me wonder or rethink some things . . . hmm :m083:

The reason you guys are getting such similar scores is simple. User error caused by test design.

This test is an axis test, pitting opposed cognitive functions against one another. There is no 'middle' response, which forces you to choose preference one way or the other. However, there are 3 degrees of preference for each function. It is very clear that you guys are choosing the same weight for a lot of your answers.

Make sure to choose a few all the way to one side or the other. Pick the top four or so questions and do this, even if you wouldn't normally. Then make sure that the rest of your answers are varied between the 1 and 2 points of preference.

This should make your results more clear.

Keep in mind though, that this test can be a very poor indicator of type if you have well developed functions. For example, My Fe and Ti are well developed, so I have trouble choosing between them, which leaves my scores in both rather moderate. However, my Fi is much better developed than my Te, which creates a much more clear preference. I like to use this test as a little bit of a springboard, nothing more.

In order for it to truly be accurate, it should vary the functions it polarizes to include shadow functions. For example, it should also pair Ti with Te, Fi with Fe, etc. Seeing as it doesn't, the only people who will get an accurate read from this test are those who have very typical cognitive function development. Many of us here are not.
 
Last edited:
The reason you guys are getting such similar scores is simple. User error caused by test design.

This test is an axis test, pitting opposed cognitive functions against one another. There is no 'middle' response, which forces you to choose preference one way or the other. However, there are 3 degrees of preference for each function. It is very clear that you guys are choosing the same weight for a lot of your answers.

Make sure to choose a few all the way to one side or the other. Pick the top four or so questions and do this, even if you wouldn't normally. Then make sure that the rest of your answers are varied between the 1 and 2 points of preference.

This should make your results more clear.

Ahhh! That makes sense. :smile:
 
Here is proof of what I am talking about...

View attachment 2736

The designers are fully aware of their design approach. You see how my results imply that I have no Si, Se, Ti, or Te in the graph? This is not a good test for analyzing one's overall cognitive functions, but it is a good test for getting in the ballpark of one's preferences (so long as the answers are varied well).

I have to admit that I do like the new layout of the test. If they'd pit shadow functions against one another, I think they'd have a very effective test.
 
Thanks
 
Function Attitude Scores

Se 21
Fe 20
Ne 19
Te 18
Fi 17
Si 16
Ti 15
Ni 14
YIKES.
66%ESFP
64%ESTP
64%ESFJ
62%ENFP
62%ENFJ
60%ENTP
60%ESTJ
58%ISFP
57%ENTJ
56%ISFJ
56%INFP
54%ISTJ
54%ISTP
52%INTP
52%INFJ
49%INTJ
 
ISTJ 57%
ISFJ 71%
INFJ 91%
INTJ 77%
ISTP 32%
ISFP 61%
INFP 71%
INTP 42%
ESTP 25%
ESFP 39%
ENFP 59%
ENTP 45%
ESTJ 44%
ESFJ 73%
ENFJ 83%
ENTJ 54%

Ni 29
Fe 26
Fi 22
Si 20
Ne 15
Te 13
Ti 9
Se 6

really? Si that high and Ti that low? well i always had trouble describing things. but i think it would be a lot higher.
 
Ni 29 Fi 28 Ti 23 Si 20 Ne 15 Fe 12 Te 7 Se 6

ISTJ
59%ISFJ
64%INFJ
84%INTJ
79%ISTP
64%ISFP
75%INFP
85%INTP
74%ESTP
31%ESFP
37%ENFP
57%ENTP
51%ESTJ
31%ESFJ
42%ENFJ
52%ENTJ
41%




I don't really think this was very accurate. My usual INTP result fits better. I definitely rely a lot on Ti, and am very Ne. I have been overstressed and thus using my aspirational role of Fe more than usual recently though.
 
This is a bad test for cognitive function details because they're pitted against each other.
 
INTJ-86%
INTP-84%
ISTJ-84%
ISTP-82%
INFJ-81%
ISFJ-78%
INFP-72%
ISFP-71%
ENTJ-44%
ESTJ-43%
ENTP-37%
ESTP-35%
ENFJ-33%
ENFP-32%
ESFJ-32%
ESFP-30%

Ti 30
Ni 30
Si 29
Fi 25
Te 10
Ne 6
Se 5
Fe 5
 
I don't think I like this test. I thought about doing it again as Noble suggested but then I realised that I answered right the first time. If I am equally good at either option then choosing one way or the other would give a false result.

I think MBTI needs some kind of sytem of wings like Enneagram does. This would solve a lot of the confusion around the often dramatic differences between the same types.

I think I would be an INFJ with an ENTJ wing
 
Last edited:
I'm not a fan of this test either. Not only are the results rather complicated but they're wildly different from other MBTI tests. And they get all this information from what, 20 questions? I call shenanigans.

Also I don't like having the questions on a sort of slider, especially as there's no absolute middle ground. When given two options I don't feel like being commited to either.
 
Latest and greatest (in order of preference):

INFJ 71%
INTJ 69%
INFP 63%
ENFJ 62%
ISFJ 60%
INTP 59%
ENTJ 58%
ISTJ 58%
ENFP 58%
ISFP 58%
ESFJ 57%
ENTP 56%
ISTP 53%
ESTJ 52%
ESTP 45%
ESFP 47%
 
When are the other cognitive function tests gonna be fixed? I am tired of this one.
 
Fe 25
Ni 25
Si 20
Te 18
Fi 17
Ne 15
Ti 10
Se 10


INFJ 79%
ENFJ 78%
ESFJ 73%
INTJ 72%
ISFJ 68%
ENTJ 63%
ISTJ 60%
INFP 58%
ESTJ 57%
ENFP 55%
ISFP 53%
ENTP 48%
ESFP 44%
INTP 43%
ISTP 37%
ESTP 36%


I, too, find some discord with this test. I don't so much mind that it's a slider. I just want a neutral option if this is the format that must be used.

Also, I'm apparently unintentionally (unbelievably) biased as my results still come out skewed. I really don't think I'm an INFJ.
 
My results:
INFP 75%
INFJ 75%

Fi- 25
Ni - 24
Si - 21
Ti - 19
Fe - 16
Ne - 14
Se - 11
Te - 10

Is it weird that my top 4 all are "i"s and the bottom 4 are all "e"s?

It doesn't fit with the Cognitive Process type makeups, that NEVER have 2 "i"s as a type's Primary and Secondary functions....
 
i love this thing...

my results:

ISTJ 46%
ISFJ 59%
INFJ 88%
INTJ 75%
ISTP 35%
ISFP 60%
INFP 74%
INTP 50%
ESTP 28%
ESFP 40%
ENFP 69%
ENTP 57%
ESTJ 42%
ESFJ 66%
ENFJ 80%
ENTJ 56%

Ni 28
Fe 24
Fi 22
Ne 20
Si 15
Te 13
Ti 11
Se 7

apparently my Ti is a lot lower than I thought? at least lower than what i have in my signature, i guess.
 
Fe 26
Ni 21
Fi 21
Si 20
Ne 15
Te 14
Se 14
Ti 9


ISTJ 57%
ISFJ 71%
INFJ 73%
INTJ 60%
ISTP 38%
ISFP 64%
INFP 66%
INTP 39%
ESTP 43%
ESFP 56%
ENFP 58%
ENTP 45%
ESTJ 50%
ESFJ 77%
ENFJ 78%
ENTJ 51%
 
Last edited:
My results with the newer version:

INFP - 95%
ENFP - 87%
INFJ - 82%
ENTP - 78%
INTP - 77%
INTJ - 73%
ISFP - 72%

ENFJ - 61%
ISTP - 55%
ENTJ - 43%
ESFP - 43%
ESFJ - 39%
ISFJ - 37%
ESTP - 34%
ISTJ - 28%
ESTJ - 21%


Fi - 29
Ne - 28
Ni - 27
Ti - 21

Fe - 14
Se - 8
Si - 7
Te - 6


Previous results:
Basic Report Results
ENTP - 75%
INTP - 73%
ENFP - 72%
INFP - 66%
ISTP - 63%
INTJ - 58%
ISFP - 56%
INFJ - 55%
ESTP - 53%
ENTJ - 52%
ESFP - 50%
ENFJ - 45%
ESTJ - 42%
ISTJ - 36%
ESFJ - 35%
ISFJ - 33%

Type Dynamics Results
Ne - 25
Ti - 23
Fi - 20
Ni - 19
Se - 16
Te - 15
Fe - 12
Si - 10

Interestingly, my ENTP percentage increased (previously, my highest score was still only 75%). But the Fi and Ni numbers are higher now.
 
ISTJ 72%
ISFJ 71%
INFJ 58%
INTJ 59%
ISTP 66%
ISFP 64%
INFP 57%
INTP 59%
ESTP 58%
ESFP 57%
ENFP 43%
ENTP 44%
ESTJ 59%
ESFJ 56%
ENFJ 50%
ENTJ 52%

I seriously doubt the J-ness but oh well...

Si 24
Ti 20
Fi 19
Ni 18
Se 17
Te 16
Fe 15
Ne 11

My last fuction test put Se first, but this strangely sticks all the extraverted functions behind the introverted ones.

I'm still gonna go with ISTP.