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How Does Cannabis Affect the Types?

Eventhorizon said:
I offer a thought. As TDHT states pot does in fact slow you down mentally for days after you smoke it. Thats not something I have read its something I know from experience. What better way to control a population than to supply them with a readily accessible drug that severely hinders motivation. Again I speak directly from not only my own experience but also in seeing its effect on other people I knew and know.

I quit when I was 21 after smoking it for about 3 years among other things. When I had it I smoked a lot but it certainly wasnt a regular thing for me. Initially it was great fun but Im not sure when it happened I became intensely paranoid. The paranoia extended well past direct usage. The paranoia wasnt just about getting caught with weed or smoking it.

When I quit it took about 5 years for that paranoia to go away completely. I was hoping that it would but I had no way of knowing at the ti.e what was causing it for sure.

Pot just seems like a really good drug to use if you happen to want to quell tbe masses. Something you muir seem sure any number of governments would love to do.

So what say you to this?
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First off i believe people can do whatever they want with their own bodies as long as they are not hurting others

They can take whatever substances they want and they can sleep with whatever gender they want and so on because its their body and their body is not in my world view the property of the government

In the worldview of the government your body IS their property and they have a valuation on you as a taxpayer and contributer to society

There is an issue over quality of the pot

So for example there have been man-made hybrids with massive doses of THC ('skunk') and i think that this stuff can cause problems; i think a lot of the problems people have psychologically is with skunk

Also a lot of the gear in the UK is called 'soap' because the Berber tribesmen in the north of morroco where the stuff is grown mix the hash with soap and henna to colour it brown and then its smuggled into the UK as '9 bars'; this stuff is crap and gives a really doping de-energising sort of high but if you go to morocco and have their good stuff (called 'zero zero') then you get a really light clear happy high and you can still function and do stuff.....you can go down into the streets and soak up the buzz and intereact with people and generally laugh your ass off

So quality of the gear is all important imo...also the strength of it. I think if you get nice clear gear of a healthy natural strength and its grown organically without pesticides and other nasties and no additives are added to boost the weight then i really don't forsee people having any problems with it

The plant itself is a miracle plant and its oil has been found to have health benefits and has even cured cancer

Concerning the government legalising it.....it might be part of drive to change the system like they did in the 1960's

The 'counter culture' movement was powered by CIA influence which used LSD to create a break from the old culture in the young generation who then permitted as they grew up the systematic dismantling of capitalism and with it its conerstone which was the nuclear family

What we have now is not capitalism....for example there is no such thing as 'too big to fail' in capitalism and the government doesn't socialise loses for example with the bank bailouts in capitalism

We now have a situation due to all the deregulations and other manouverings of the marxists where we now have the top 0.1% of the american (US) population owning as much wealth as the bottom 90%!!! Which is staggering

But its not just in the US....its in all the countries that are part of the anglo-israeli NATO club who are all in lockstep

Globally the top 85 people now have as much wealth as the bottom half of humanity!

So to what extent is weed being rolled out now to pacify the public (like a kind of opium of the masses), or to what extent is it being rolled out to open their minds to change (like LSD was used in the 60's) and to what extent is it being legalised because the drug 'war' has been lost so the governments are figuring they might as well pursue tax revenue....i don't honestly know at this moment

My default setting with any government moves is suspicion but at the same time i believe people should have a right to grow and smoke pot in their own homes and in designated areas

In Holland its ok to smoke pot but its basically social ettiquette to not smoke in front of children or old people and i think that's fair and reasonable

Concerning 'paranoia' when smoking pot if you think about it paranoia is basically a level of your psyche telling you that something is very wrong and lets face it there are many things very wrong in our society

So in making people paranoid and hyper concerned pot is perhaps bringing them into a more healthy frame of mind because as krishnamurti said: there's nothing healthy about being well adapted to a sick society

As some in the alternative media say: ''if you're not paranoid by now then you're not paying attention''
 
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I would smoke cannabis in a purely spiritual environment as I believe it is meant to be used in the delight of love and praise to God but overall I am not a fan. I guess I don't need it to open my senses as they are already open.. It is mashing up the heads of our lost young people imo.
 
I use to get stoned all the time in my teens but then quit so I could join the army. Now I am out so I can do weed again. I got stoned about 2 months ago it was the first time in 10 years. It was in cookie form. I ate three and was totally fucked. When I start out with eaten weed it is an Si experience where I get in tune with my body. I have to be honest I don't know how SJ's do it every day. I can feel all of my organs and I can feel them working. That lasts about an hour and then I turn into a vegetable. I go full introvert and go some place where I can be alone and I just enjoy the inner body experience. When I get stoned I like it to be an on my own thing I don't like to be disturbed. I always seem to end up learning a lot about my self. I think must go into a full Ni Fi loop or something. Its always worth it.

One thing I have never done but have always wanted to do is get a massage while stoned. I think having relaxed muscles would amplify the effects of the massage. I will give it a go some time.
 
Cannabis accentuates your already predetermined state of mind. If you experience paranoia or other adverse side effects; you were already prone to harbor thee feelings before cannabis brings it forth. Since a person is unable to work through the reasons for their already paranoid state when sober; they go off blaming cannabis when their shadow aspect or current state of mind is revealed through smoking. Those who cannot control or understand the underlying psychological reasons for their paranoia should not smoke as cannabis has the potential to give insight into your psychological well being. Paranoia or inability to control your thought patterns while in an altered state of consciousness will only prevents deeper insight from coming forth. The ego mind is on high alert and let's it be known through anxiety and paranoia because the expansiveness required to understand an altered state of being can only happen when we release our fear of "how we might be affected'.

People have the notion that they cannot control or direct their altered consciousness when "high" but you can. It is a practice of stepping out of your acustomed state of being and embracing an altered state of your mind and intelligence without judgement or fear. Experiencing yourself in a different perspective can give insight or be a terrible fearful nightmare for those who cannot simply relax for the small duration of time. Your beliefs about the substances will also alter your experience. Feelings of "doing drugs" or "drugs are bad" and other beliefs will have already set the stage for your experience even before you toke.

I am strictly speaking regarding cannabis, lsd, psilocybin, and dmt and not the hard chemical drugs such as heroin and cocaine.

As for cannabis affecting different types; i find that EN and ES types tend to mellow out and normalize their energy levels into a chill mode. While IS and IN types experience tend to be more complex as most Intro types are already coming into the experience with head full of what if and whatnots and have a hard time controlling their psychological mind chatter while sober so injecting themselves into an altered state of consciousness really stretches their minds and they jump very fast into judging the experience before letting the experience unfold and reveal itself to the user. It is all subjective.
 
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I used to smoke a ton of weed and just recently (about a month ago) quit. I've been an on/off again smoker for about 10 years. I definitely don't feel as "sharp" while I'm smoking (not necessarily only while I'm high), but I'm more calm and probably more pleasant to be around. Once I'm off for about a week or two, I get to be a bit more tense and quick to anger. This doesn't really seem to go away with time, but hopefully I'll be able to train/meditate myself out of it.

Sinji said:
One thing I have never done but have always wanted to do is get a massage while stoned. I think having relaxed muscles would amplify the effects of the massage. I will give it a go some time.
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It's awesome, both giving and receiving. I mainly had indica blends so your mileage may vary depending on the strain you get. Sex while high was unsettling at first but became awesome after I got to know the person better.
 
one time as a teen i ended up walking along the beach at night with my friends and there was an odd tune in my head. really happy though. it felt like an odd atmosphere however, as if i was an observer but not a participant - but that could have been a normal effect.

however i remembered this same scene was something that i had dreamt about as a child! now that was freaky.
 
I've not read through the entire discussion, but just what the original poster described in her opening question. And, I couldn't agree with you more with everything that you said. When I smoke, it's almost like I am reconnected with the outside world. Like you said Ne almost replaces Ni. It is a wonderful feeling; getting out of your head and seeing this ENTIRE NEW WORLD that never existed before. Where I may have been close-minded before or could only see something from a certain angle because of my inner beliefs and workings, weed allows me to to see things from that Ne perspective. I always go on walks when I smoke, especially because I live in a great scenic area. It's almost like I'm leaving my internal world and taking a small step into the external world, and seeing things from that perspective as well. Smoking also lessens a lot of my more negative or unwanted INFJ tendencies, like the anxiety that you mentioned above. It's really nice to take a long smoke walk and to be able to take a situation I am really upset or hurt or don't understand and to see it in a way that doesn't make it seem so tremendous. It makes it more manageable, more real, more domestic, if you know what I mean. I do believe that smoking opens up so many possibilities to changing many of the usual INFJ dominant functions.
I will add that it took me a VERY LONG TIME to get to this place with smoking. I was a very paranoid smoker for a long time, often times letting my Ni take complete control of me while I was high, getting really lost and trapped inside my own head and mind. I would create these awful and scary situations that manifested from absolutely nothing, or more likely nothing that I could really pinpoint or put a finger on. But if you see smoking weed in a healthy light, smoke it for the right reasons (like getting this AMAZING different perspective), I think it can really be advantageous for INFJs, who often find it nigh on impossible to escape that inner realm.
 
..one odd story about weed from 2 weeks ago..
So, I was going to another city, my mom is done with chemoteraphy so she's finally going home.
Everything was ok until I picked her up. It's a 4h car ride.
In one moment I felt something was wrong so I stopped my car in parking lot in front of drogeriamarkt.
About one minute later my picture started to flickering and everything was like upside down, I thought that my sugar felt so I ran into dm to pick fructose.
It was like a movie scene, I was falling over stuff in shop and started to eat fructose candy.
When i came home, I measured sugar but it was ok, hm, odd..
Next seasure I had day after, I was alone at home and this time it was worse.
I measured my blood pressure and it was 209/108.
Since I was home alone, I wanted to smoke a joint :)
In this moment of illnes and panic, I went out to smoke it anyway.. if I'm gonna die, let it atleast to be with smile :p
..after few puffs, my blood presure felt to 149/69, after whole joint it was 125/70..
I told my doctor what happent, he said that tobacco lowers blood sugar in shot terms and that weed boosts this effect.

Now I'm going trough hospital to find what happend. Every test since now was ok, it's something with part of spine that goes into head.

..point of this story is to always have joint with you because you never know when it can save your life :p

Happy new year to all!!
 
Hrrm. I don't know anymore. Ne or Ni?
 
It does not seem to have any effect on me.

I've tried it before you started this thread but never noticed any effect.
As such just to be sure I experimented intentionally with it with friends afterwards.
Not one of us could detect any change in me. ^^"
 
ArtFirst said:
It does not seem to have any effect on me.

I've tried it before you started this thread but never noticed any effect.
As such just to be sure I experimented intentionally with it with friends afterwards.
Not one of us could detect any change in me. ^^"
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Did you inhale properly?

There was a guy around who did that. Everyone else is lean and he's still sober. The next day he had a few proper tokes and it definitely hit him.
 
Cornerstone said:
Did you inhale properly?

There was a guy around who did that. Everyone else is lean and he's still sober. The next day he had a few proper tokes and it definitely hit him.
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Yes. 100% certain.
 
Most people don't get high for first few times.
 
I personally enjoy shrooms more. Weed hasn't done much than give me munchies. One time, I had some that was laced with shit once and it made me super hyper.
 
bionic said:
I personally enjoy shrooms more. Weed hasn't done much than give me munchies. One time, I had some that was laced with shit once and it made me super hyper.
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You sure it wasn't just a sativa?

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabi...brid-whats-the-difference-between-cannabis-ty

We tend to think of indica strains as being more sedating and relaxing, with full-body effects that "lock" you to the couch (meaning you're content to sit back, unwind, and enjoy a Netflix marathon of your favorite show). On the other hand, we anticipate with sativas racier cerebral effects that leave us feeling energized and uplifted. Because of this typal contrast, consumers tend to prefer indicas for nighttime use while sativas are typically used from morning to afternoon.
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