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LOL you want to know why they don't get rich? Its a simple thing I can let you in on the secret right now if you want.

Its because social progressives who have outstayed their usefulness kept pushing and pushing and pushing. White liberals found numerous ways to isolate black fathers from their families and marginalized their roles as providers. So they left home, they weren't needed. Your argument is to easy to beat and explain that I feel I have an unfair advantage over you... its absurd really.

I lived that life I am the product of those socialized neighborhoods. I grew up in a predominantly black housing projects as a boy. My family was destitute, drug addicted, and fatherless.

When you live in that type of place the reason you dont get rich isnt because you are poor, its because you are helplessly hooked into a social system. You rely on the government for everything. Food, Money, Work, Health... its horrible because government run programs are usually the WORST of the WORST programs. Youre talking about the same organization that loses profit in the Post Office and who cannot run a DMV without massive hours and hours long lines.

They take away ambition. When you spoil a child you rob the child of important things, like ambition, self reliance and determination. Its the same thing that happens under socialized communities.

These poor blacks and latinos as you mention are basically being put into sub standard living conditions, then sapped of thier will to succeed by having everything given to them. So what do they do? Well since whats given to them is shit and substandard many of them turn to drugs or drinking.

And here is a little more to blast what you think is the norm out of the water, people in those conditions DO rise above it all. Myself included. Why dont you ask Jay Z how he did it. You have any idea how many capitalist young men turn to selling drugs in those conditions then use the money earned to buy into real investments like property?

I said I wanted numbers, stastistics.

fact you're the exception doesn't disproof the trend. People do rise, but not all, and not as much as others.

you feel like you're on top of the world because you overcame certain obstacles when certain people detain most of the wealth of the world and are making sure they can make overcoming things more and more difficult for people.

what are you doing now? advocating selling drugs as a legitimate way to get rich what?
 
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Yes, I have noticed in my life that picking out fellow NFers is very easy because the NFness makes them think and act in a certain way although not always the same way. If you see me as an S over an N which is a huge IMO then you clearly made a mistake or need to sharpen your N.

I'm an ENTP. That statement doesn't apply.
 
Screw militias, it'd probably happen, but I'd police my own shit.

So right! Every man for himself! I got a shotgun so I can look out for my own property. If my neighbor loses his, then its his own damn fault!

No, they don't. But fuck that. People ought to build fireproof houses. We don't live in the middle ages, there's plenty of clay around, and it's easy to do.

Yeah, where is the common sense? If their house burns down it is their own damn fault!

However, People are lazy. No fire department would ensure more intelligent building.

Or cheaper housing! Hell if only more people built their houses out of cardbaord, then it wouldn't matter if they burned down. They could just go find more cardboard and build another one. All those people who insist on luxuries like insulation and dry wall are pretty stupid. They are totally living outside their means.

They can put a tollbooth anywhere they want. I know how to make thermite and I'll burn through those bars. I don't want roads, I want the freedom to ride my horse anywhere. If I could do that, I'd have her shipped up from QLD.

No way! I have to maintain my horse trails so if you use it then I'm charging you a toll! Otherwise I'll shoot you and your horse! It's my right!
 
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I said I wanted numbers, stastistics.

fact you're the exception doesn't disproof the trend. People do rise, but not all, and not as much as others.

you feel like you're on top of the world because you overcame certain obstacles when certain people detain most of the wealth of the world and are making sure they can make overcoming things more and more difficult for people.

what are you doing now? advocating selling drugs as a legitimate way to get rich what?

I told you why the trend is the way it is. Did you bother to read it? I am on top of the world, I am living my life the way I want to, I am successful. And people don't detain wealth, that's not how capitalism works. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.
 
I told you why the trend is the way it is. Did you bother to read it? I am on top of the world, I am living my life the way I want to, I am successful. And people don't detain wealth, that's not how capitalism works. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

I've encountered people like you. They are typically people who exaggerate their achievements and understate the amount of help they received getting to the point they are at and I don't even need my intuition to know you are no different. This is the kind of egotism that I have encountered all my life. I know the people who genuinely made it from poverty to riches because they always are generous to their fellow man to a fault. They understand the value of the relationships in their lives far outweigh the value of their material wealth and it is in them that I have found the greatest motivation to succeed. Not so that I can have a lot, but so that I can share what I do have with those who are important to me.
 
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I told you why the trend is the way it is. Did you bother to read it? I am on top of the world, I am living my life the way I want to, I am successful. And people don't detain wealth, that's not how capitalism works. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

You're very deluded.

If your life is fine, congratulations to you. They say ignorance is bliss.

I like the way you defend selling drugs to buy property, but you know, capitalism has its laws to. Even if they only apply to the weaker.

But a minority of the world has most of its wealth and that's how it works.

The richer somebody is, the poorer it makes someone else.

Freedom is fine, but there's gotta be a balance to the umbalance to make the struggle a little bit fairer.

That should be the goverment's job, not the favor lobbiests and themselves.
 
I won't delude myself thinking I'm on the top of the world just because there are people below me.
 
Actually there's nothing wrong with selling drugs. Jack Daniels does it, Marlboro does it...
 
Actually there's nothing wrong with selling drugs. Jack Daniels does it, Marlboro does it...

guess what happens to a black dude trying to do it tho.
 
I told you why the trend is the way it is. Did you bother to read it? I am on top of the world, I am living my life the way I want to, I am successful. And people don't detain wealth, that's not how capitalism works. More proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

Some questions. Why is it that you think that riches are an achievement? Can you explain why you believe that being rich means being succesful? What exactly do you consider it to be the top of the world?
 
Billy, found this:

How to Smash a Pop Can on Your Forehead

This is the secret to smashing a pop can on your forehead. It can be used by guys to impress the ladies (or vice versa if you are of the female persuasion) or just have fun with your friends.
  1. Drink a can of pop, it doesn't matter what kind.
  2. Gripping the can in your hand with fingers opposite the thumb (palm of the hand not touching) squeeze the sides lightly but hard enough to make two small dents opposite of each other.
  3. Turn the can and repeat above step so there are four small dents in the side of the can.
  4. Place on your forehead and push down hard and fast.


  • The dents are most important to the trick.
  • Make sure you crush the can quickly, the momentum helps.
  • If you really want to be impressive, you could do several cans in a row, chug each pop, throw the crushed can in the trash from across the room, or all of the above.
things you'll need:


  • Pop can
  • Forehead (hands are good too)
  • People to impress
 
Some questions. Why is it that you think that riches are an achievement? Can you explain why you believe that being rich means being succesful? What exactly do you consider it to be the top of the world?

You know, I was actually reading Law of Success by Napoleon Hill the other day and Andrew Carnegie surprised me with his insights into what it means to be successful. The greatest riches are definitely not monetary and I feel pity for anyone who thinks otherwise since they are pretty much wasting their life.
 
I've encountered people like you. They are typically people who exaggerate their achievements and understate the amount of help they received getting to the point they are at and I don't even need my intuition to know you are no different. This is the kind of egotism that I have encountered all my life. I know the people who genuinely made it from poverty to riches because they always are generous to their fellow man to a fault. They understand the value of the relationships in their lives far outweigh the value of their material wealth and it is in them that I have found the greatest motivation to succeed. Not so that I can have a lot, but so that I can share what I do have with those who are important to me.

lol more of that INFJness

Can you stop for 1 minute using your emotions as logic against your intuition and just TRY to be realistic? You don't know dick about me. Only what I allow you to know. The fact that you rush to make judgments about me based on how you FEEL about things is something you're going to have to work on. Until then you do yourself a disservice.
 
Granted the only thing making it truly harder to break in, isn't competition, capitalism thrives on that, its the government and social policies and taxes that make it harder.

There is such a thing as unhealthy competition, however. That's why we needed the likes of the Sherman Antitrust Act.


Basically there is a double standard. The wealthy can lobby and get all the government regulation they want that supports their interests, but if the little guy wants government regulation that supports his interest then he is painted as a socialist.

That's right, hence my argument that government should keep regulation to a minimum. Once regulation is accepted as a means of keeping things "fair," it gets put to work making things decidedly unfair.

It's gotten to the point that you are actually sitting here arguing that unregulated monopolies are good, which is such a ludicrous idea that even Adam Smith would spin in his grave at the idea.

Uh ... what? I support regulation to avoid monopolies (see my above reply to Billy).

You act as if there is a difference. In case you are unaware, there is this thing called inheritance.

And there are two kinds of inheritance: money and nobility. The fact that the latter usually comes with the former does not make them the same.
 
You're very deluded.

If your life is fine, congratulations to you. They say ignorance is bliss.

I like the way you defend selling drugs to buy property, but you know, capitalism has its laws to. Even if they only apply to the weaker.

But a minority of the world has most of its wealth and that's how it works.

The richer somebody is, the poorer it makes someone else.

Freedom is fine, but there's gotta be a balance to the umbalance to make the struggle a little bit fairer.

That should be the goverment's job, not the favor lobbiests and themselves.

I think I am done with talking to you... you are so angry, incompetent, wrong, loud mouthed, ignorant that its not even worth the mental stamina to even try to educate you out of your slovenly wrongness.

I don't judge people for how they get to where they need to be. But if I was living in a ghetto surrounded by misery and the only way I could get out was by selling weed to rich kids in the burbs you bet your goddamn ass I would do it. That might be where you went wrong in YOUR life. You seem like a reactionary type of person... maybe you should try ACTION once and a while.

Your statement about someone getting rich and other getting poorer, is just a badge of achievement to the ignorance you shine like an anti-beacon. I feel bad for anyone who has the misfortune of ever listening to the gloomy mournful tripe that you spew about society. Good day sir.