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    Is it possible for INFJ's to be at peace with the world?
     
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    I'd say yeah. The judging aspect of the INFJ is good at not accepting things as they are (and wanting to change them) but allowing it to bother you is a different story.

    'At peace with the world' is more of a scalar ('to what degree') than a binary (yes/no) value.
     
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    Not sure. You can learn how to handle the difficulties more effectively but the expectation to completely fit in, not so much. You can be at peace with yourself, and not with the world, not the same thing. And tbh, I don't think it's so much about being at peace with the world but being able to live within it's borders reasonably and effectively. It's like being in a difficult relationship which you can't leave. You can't divorce yourself from it, but you can learn to manage your relationship so that you can do what you need and still meet the needs of the world around you.
     
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    One way I have achieved peace myself is to understand there is really no such thing as absolute good or bad. It's a made up concept based on opinions and preference.

    In the end all people ever really want is what they prefer. There is nothing universal saying that this is this and will always be such and such value.

    We live in a universal where nothing truly matters and that is the where the beauty starts. Because when nothing truly matter everything has the chance to to be meaningful to the person themselves.

    With that perspective despite all the "problems" the world has it's still very much beautiful. And the truth is there aren't any problems, just preferences that do not match what we prefer.

    But if everything was exactly how we prefer them to be, what freedoms would anyone else have?
     
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    For true peace with the world, a person needs to make peace with themselves. When you look at the world, what you actually see is yourself. As long as we are caught up in desire, we'll be separating ourselves into separate parts, fragments, and it follows that we'll view the world as fragmentary as well.

    So go meditate. That is enough proselytizing for now.
     
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    Seems like a loaded question based on a stereotype. I am at peace with the world because I accept human nature for what it is.
     
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    Peace is a state of mind.

    INFJs can sometimes be at peace with the world, but not always.
     
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    I don't think an INFJ will really be at "peace" with the world, until they accept, and rationalize all of the problems that the world has. INFJ's have a natural urge to try to make everything better and happier for everyone, but there are some things that just can't be done. Once an INFJ comes to terms with this, they will have the ability (but not nesscerarly the capacity) to do so. So the answer is yes.
     
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    It is possible for you to find peace.
     
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    I wrote this a couple of yrs ago because I was feeling so frustrated with the world, and yes, I still do but my signature helps me switch to finding my peace with things that are beyond my control... It's not always easy, apathy is not the answer for me either, but to simply just try and be the most aware person I can possibly be myself, therefore I can give my best to the world. It's difficult not to feel victimized by life sometimes, but I just remind myself that victims victimize, and then when no one is winning, sometimes things feel so bad that u cannot be in a place of learning from anything. So ya, it's possible like Naxx said, but like we have all said, it certainly isn't easy to do. There is only 'what is', what u do with it, is up to u. Hard to do when life hurts u and others.

    Who I Really Am...

    I shall not judge
    I shall hope for
    care for
    pray for
    and love.
    I shall seek enlightenment
    through my journey
    and yours.
    I shall understand you
    in all your strife
    respect your shield
    and avert my eyes.
    Patience.
    I shall not expect
    but offer peace to you.
    In troubled times,
    I will find purity
    within my soul
    seek strength and growth
    in misery,
    pain and anger.
    I shall find comfort in
    forgiveness.
    This cycle.
    This elemental balance.
    unanimous in all distance
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    God within me
    god within this,
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    It's strange. Even though a lot of things in my life are happening that others would perceive as sad, I feel very at peace with the world. I enjoy the negatives and positives and though things bother me they don't really bother me, because sometimes I enjoy being bothered or having a good topic to get reasonabley argumentative about.
    So overall I'm feeling very happy with this world though a lot of it's aspects don't make me happy at all. (I don't think I'd be able to completely enjoy living without something to analyse or problems to solve.) Peace would probably usually be defined as without conflict but I think having no conflict about having conflict is a form of peace as well.

    So can INFJs reach a state of self defined peace with the world? I'd say yes. For me it doesn't mean you can't get mad from time to time, be upset, argue and take a total emotional hit... because each time that's happened to me I've come out the other side and been greatful for the experience. Being at peace with your experiences and the experiences the world has to offer is me being at peace with the world in my own way. Whether you'd count that as just being at peace with myself, I'm not sure but I think if you rely your definition of "being at peace with the world" on the world also being at peace with you, it's impossible for anybody to fulfill the requirements.
     
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    I will be at peace when I'm in the land of the Free and home of the brave; and not in the land of disease and home of the slave!!
     
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    I think you may be disappointed if you aren't realistic.

    Just how familiar are you with American history, even?

    America is idyll in theory and maybe in a few movies you may have seen or novels you've read. This is not the land of the free or home of the brave. It's a lovely place to live if you are rich, but other than that.. not so much.

    Are you rich PG? Then you might be right about America.
     
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    Am I rich? Hahah how can anyone be rich in a socialist country?
    Yes, I am fairly familiar with American history.
    Surely even I have opinions on what could be improved like health care and fundamental security. But just because what I love is abstract doesnt mean its unrealistic?
    I'm well aware that the movies and books glamorize USA but those images are not the ones that I fell for. I fell for the freedom (which is unexistent where I am right now).
     
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    What freedoms specifically do you think we possess that you do not?
     
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    Oh I'm sorry but right now I'm really not in a mood where I can try to convince someone who doesn't agree :/ In short that: No matter what, you can be anything you want to be! It it is so easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you...
     
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    I just think that your zeal for an American life is founded on propaganda. It bothers me that you're so in love with the concept of American freedom, but do you even know what it's founded on?



    I didn't choose to be born here or at all. Just worked out that way. I'm taking nothing for granted.
     
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    Dont listen your notion of the US is correct, you will be more free here to earn a living than anywhere else in the world. We have a lot of economic opportunity, even though the Liberals are trying to destroy that. And you are free to speak, own arms, and make money. Its fantastic.
     
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    The country is so free and there is so much abundance here that people here irrationally feel guilty when they hear praise of the place. Its sad.
     
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