It's a thread about recognizing what constitutes as "good looks" generally, not meeting those standards and consequently, feeling envious of those who do.
I've been turned down based solely on my looks. I've been judged for physical deformities and such, and blatantly given the "pity look" when I tell them my acne doesn't go away, despite my best attempts and their best advice. This leads me to believe that physical attractiveness is not, in fact, entirely subjective and possibly has an objective component to it. After all, aren't some people deemed attractive by a larger number of people and some people deemed attractive by a few selected individuals?
I wonder why this happens; why certain people are more attractive than others, or why certain physical features are deemed more attractive than others. I'm also curious to see how many people can relate to this sentiment of envy and why isn't this considered natural e.g. usually the response to admitting to not being attractive is almost hostile in asserting that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Well, that's fine, so then explain why one person is more widely seen as attractive than another person, and how this isn't evidence of an objective criteria?
Thoughts and opinions.
It would be best if you put envy as a separate matter; envious people will find reasons to be envious and be envious about everything, and you can feel inferior without feeling envious.
Objective standard of beauty...I'm sure it exists. Barring deviations from standard (what some would call fetishes, and others tastes) which is just the variety society had brought, it's the way you mentioned it. I'm not so sure if it's closed (as time moves, certain standards changes, as someone had said it here) and not that it's always that case, but if you're talking about people in general, well; people are going to have certain values embedded within their standard in one way or another and in subjective amounts.
Even within people of similar 'niches' (chubby chaser, or racial fetish), there are certain......subtle standards that exist (subtle because I don't really look at them / analyzes them enough.)
For me it's some sort of a Litmus test, with certain implications hidden inbetween the answers, leading to another question. ("Is this guy fat? Yes >> Why? Is he lazy, is it metabolism, or he just overeats? >> what's the other signs? >> What does those signs infer? Is he gross? Is he endearing?")
I think there's hugely interwoven contexts abound. Media and culture and social values often consciously or subconsciously promote the value. If I'm not mistaken, in Africa fat women are seen as highly desirable. Or historically, Chinese like their female to have...a...specific shape of foot (Google foot binding.)
And of course, there's always genetics. Which complicates the situations because you may find people you generally don't find attractive nor compatible in every way as attractive.
