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Would you date a stripper?

No, I can't stand vain men. I'm not saying all male strippers are vain but I bet you the majority are. Also I don't like the body building type, so pretty unlikely unless he also happened to be self deprecating, have a great sense of humour and interests beyond the sensual and self gratifying.
 
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melissa* said:
No, I can't stand vain men. I'm not saying all male strippers are vain but I bet you the majority are. Also I don't like the body building type, so pretty unlikely unless he also happened to be self deprecating, have a great sense of humour and interests beyond the sensual and self gratifying.
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I can agree about not wanting to date a physical fitness narcissist but that can be anyone. Someone doesn't have to be a stripper or body builder to think or behave like this. They are quite a few non-stripper or non-body building people who also have an overly high sense of self importance. They can be just as vain as anyone else. Sometimes, it's the person who wants to look like a stripper or who models themselves after body builders who often have bigger egos. They are a huge turn off, although they do get a lot of attention, play, and choice of very beautiful people.

So, the problem is not someone who looks great or takes care of their bodies well, because that's a good thing. It'd be unfair to hate someone just for looking good and staying in shape, although it's easy to envy or feel jealous of it. But the real issue I think is when that person thinks so much of themselves, and makes you feel as if you come second or last to them and their body. We're talking about someone who is only interested in someone who worships them, a partner to idolize them, and make them feel like gods or goddesses, that gets old. Or they only want to date others who are just as obsessed with fitness as they are. You'll simply be like the magic mirror in the Queen's room, there to essentially reinforce how beautiful, hot or wonderful they are, or what could be improved. And you'll be in constant competition for everyone who wants them.

tbh, I'm way too intimidated by pretty, beautiful, or highly attractive people. to assume I'm on their radar. Or maybe my confidence level is too low :D. I'll automatically assume they're better than me or that I'm not good enough. Nowhere close to being in or around people in this world for this to ever be an issue. There so many other aspects to being with people in these lifestyles that goes beyond looking good, such as status, money, reputation, social circles, trophyism, etc. Not in that league, and don't want to be. I'd be a fish out of water. :meye:
 
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Gale said:
I think is when that person thinks so much of themselves
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This was what I was getting at. No matter if the person thinks less of me because of their inflated ego, I'd already be long gone. Stripper or non- stripper, huge ego doesn't impress me, it's a big turn off. Like I said already, I'm not saying all men who have a lot of muscles / or strippers are necessarily have inflated egos, but we've all come across the type.
 
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melissa* said:
This was what I was getting at. No matter if the person thinks less of me because of their inflated ego, I'd already be long gone. Stripper or non- stripper, huge ego doesn't impress me, it's a big turn off. Like I said already, I'm not saying all men who have a lot of muscles / or strippers are necessarily have inflated egos, but we've all come across the type.
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Yes, vain people are everywhere and they're not limited by profession :) I've been in academia (briefly) and intellectual elitism is just as vain as those in beauty and physical fitness world can be. Even worse in some cases. They're tiers and levels one never crosses.
 
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Gale said:
Yes, vain people are everywhere and they're not limited by profession :) I've been in academia (briefly) and intellectual elitism is just as vain as those in beauty and physical fitness world can be. Even worse in some cases. They're tiers and levels one never crosses.
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Exceptionally vain women as just as much a pain in the arse as well. Lol!
I didn't know we were talking about other types of vanity, but yes your right it can come in different forms. Arrogance comes in different forms.

And just to repeat once again, of course I don't categorise all strippers like this either. That'd be grossly unfair to stereotype people who are probably a lot of them, just trying to make ends meet and who aren't really vain at all.

When I was doing my dance training, a lot of us had to work to support ourselves. I had a friend who worked in a club. It made sense, she was fit and got paid more for working less hours which was important because we were all very busy and tired as hell. She was a sensitive, intelligent self- reflective person. I think she had to toughen up quite a bit to deal with the environment. I don't think I could have handled it.
 
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I might date a stripper who was using the money for education and a better life. If that's all he aspired to and didn't have anything else going on, I would be very quickly bored.
 
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Scientia said:
I might date a stripper who was using the money for education and a better life. If that's all he aspired to and didn't have anything else going on, I would be very quickly bored.
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So eloquently said, instead of writing 4 boring and rambling posts I could have just said that, Lol!
 
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I think of strippers more as opportunists. Whether male or female, I don't see them as vain people. More times than not they are trying to get from point A to B while maximizing their income and minimizing time spent at work. There is such a stigma with this. They are viewed as immoral and worse for putting their bodies on display.

I've befriended one who, at the time, was a single mom trying to get herself and her toddler son out of dire circumstances and had no family to fall back on. She's a happily married mom of three now, preparing to put her oldest through college. I know she doesn't regret it. I have another male friend, gay who stripped for straight women, same thing, getting himself out of a rut. He's a successful family man now, and one of the most compassionate humans it's been my luck to know.

Sure, there are those that fit the vain and immoral stereotype to a T, but I see vain and immoral doctors at work, and these types of people in general filling all sorts of roles.
So my short answer is yes, I would date a stripper.
 
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Scientia said:
I liked your post lol!
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Ahh, thanks Scientia,sometimes you I get carried away and then think...oh, what a load of bull shit, what did I just say?!
You know?!
 
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Scientia said:
I might date a stripper who was using the money for education and a better life. If that's all he aspired to and didn't have anything else going on, I would be very quickly bored.
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IDK ... if someone was on a quest to be the worlds best stripper that would be a pretty fascinating journey.
 
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melissa* said:
No, I can't stand vain men. I'm not saying all male strippers are vain but I bet you the majority are. Also I don't like the body building type, so pretty unlikely unless he also happened to be self deprecating, have a great sense of humour and interests beyond the sensual and self gratifying.
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So... yes?
 
Jet said:
I can't help it that I have hyperactive salivary glands...I was born that way.
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I've been with a squirter but not a sprayer. Me-OW!
 
Flavus Aquila said:
What about tease-artists?
Apparently there are entertainers of both sexes, who don't actually strip down, but specialise in performance flirting.
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It's kind of the same thing, don't you think? The intent is to manipulate for money.
 
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Anywhere But Here said:
It's kind of the same thing, don't you think? The intent is to manipulate for money.
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I don't know.... a stripper exposes themselves; a non-strip dancer works the imagination and exposes the audience.

I've never had the opportunity to attend a feather fan-dance. If they managed to completely avoid exposing themselves, I would be absolutely captivated.
 
Flavus Aquila said:
I don't know.... a stripper exposes themselves; a non-strip dancer works the imagination and exposes the audience.

I've never had the opportunity to attend a feather fan-dance. If they managed to completely avoid exposing themselves, I would be absolutely captivated.
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Oh yes, Rand. I still can't believe she was arrested for that. Interesting story.

Some might consider the mental stimulation to be more arousing. I guess it depends on the person.

But either way, they are both inviting thoughts of sex, or the possibility of more, imo.
 
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Oh yes, Rand. I still can't believe she was arrested for that. Interesting story.

Some might consider the mental stimulation to be more arousing. I guess it depends on the person.

But either way, they are both inviting thoughts of sex, or the possibility of more, imo.
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She went too far. It was the silhouette part that was the most risque to me.

There's some middle ground between provoking lust, and not alluding to sexuality at all. I wouldn't be uncomfortable dating a performer that can deal with the topic of sexuality in her performance, but doesn't put on a debauched quasi-foreplay.

It may be splitting hairs, but strippers are progressively more exposed as the performance proceeds; a good tease-burlesque becomes more creative about not exposing herself as the performance runs its course. One has a trajectory, which can only end in total exposure; the other is only limited by creativity and talent.
 
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