INTP/INFJ derailment discussion

[Deleted member 16771]

Was a pretty fitting meta-example. Don’t worry: there will be more

Euphemisms for passive-aggression #412

It wasn't a 'pretty fitting meta-example' because you clothed it in generalities, making it passive aggression.

You could have made the same point much more neutrally and less like a little girl with something like:

'Some of the nihilism we see in INTPs might be accounted for by the fact that their "truths" are often rejected. For example, my recent dispute with Wyote - though sorted now - certainly fits the pattern.'

 

[Ren]

Euphemisms for passive-aggression #412

It wasn't a 'pretty fitting meta-example' because you clothed it in generalities, making it passive aggression.

You could have made the same point much more neutrally and less like a little girl with something like:

'Some of the nihilism we see in INTPs might be accounted for by the fact that their "truths" are often rejected. For example, my recent dispute with Wyote - though sorted now - certainly fits the pattern.'

Oh boy, Hos the fight is over, don’t start it again

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Euphemisms for passive-aggression #412

It wasn't a 'pretty fitting meta-example' because you clothed it in generalities, making it passive aggression.

You could have made the same point much more neutrally and less like a little girl with something like:

'Some of the nihilism we see in INTPs might be accounted for by the fact that their "truths" are often rejected. For example, my recent dispute with Wyote - though sorted now - certainly fits the pattern.'

It’s not passive to say this is a part of who I am so it’s possible it will happen again. It would be more dick-ish to say you better be pretty prepared for that. If this is trying to control things, you can knock it off

 

[Lady Jolanda]

 

[Ren]

Jesus Christ, dude. Drop it.

So, the answer to the question 'why are INTPs nihilistic?' is 'Wyote'. Gotcha.

Here’s a possible answer: nihilism is the rejection of the idea that statements about values are truth-functional. In simpler language, it is not possible to assert that values have transcendent reality — as opposed to, say, the truths of mathematics.

I could easily imagine a Ti-Dom being drawn to nihilism thus defined more than other types, because Ti will seek analytical truth first and foremost. But statements about values cannot provide that kind of certain ground.

 

[Daustus]

How do you experience the ‘weirdness’ of your Ti? Can you describe it?

It's seeing a pattern then thinking it thru but being not completely sure you are correct. I have a hunch I am right but depending on subject I might need someone to double check the work. What makes this complicated is that I may not be able to show the work to someone that needs the specific details.

 

[MoonFlier]

Should I be popping more popcorn?

 

[Wyote]

My feelings were not hurt

Hmm yea, you continuing to bring it up says otherwise

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Hmm yea, you continuing to bring it up says otherwise

It was a perfect example of something that was recent and relevant to everyone participating in the thread. Knock it off

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Mutual exclusivity is possible between mentioning something and any feelings associated with it

Or maybe INTPs realize this phenomenon more

 

[Wyote]

It was a perfect example of something that was recent and relevant to everyone participating in the thread. Knock it off

Quit trying to shirk self accountability, knock it off

 

[ClevelandINTP]

You don’t immediately light up with joy or sadness or whatever every time you talk about your mom, do you?

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Quit trying to shirk self accountability, knock it off

Accountability for what? Mentioning a relevant example? It’s you who appears to have feelings

 

[Wyote]

You don’t immediately light up with joy or sadness or whatever every time you talk about your mom, do you?

Haha I do, in fact

Accountability for what? Mentioning a relevant example? It’s you who appears to have feelings

Just generally, it's a pattern of yours

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Haha I do, in fact



Just generally, it's a pattern of yours

There was an apology and this was discussed in detail. It is in my mind already stored as an example (Si) with no feelings attached to it. Knock it off

 

[Ren]

@Wyote @ClevelandINTP

Lads

Time to make peace!

Let’s talk about open monism.

 

[ClevelandINTP]

If you would prefer never mentioning it, then say so

 

[Ren]

Resolve this in private if need be, this is getting tiring and derailing the thread again.

You’ll soon realize this is nothing serious and be mates tomorrow

 

[Ren]

Oh wait, this is a thread about derailing threads.

This is getting too meta for me

 

[Wyote]

It is in my mind already stored as an example (Si) with no feelings attached to it.