so what do you guys think. Is our J/P'ness based on which cognitive functions we mostly use rather than being a personality tread on its own??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbti#Lifestyle:_Judgment_.28J.29.2FPerception_.28P.29
so what do you guys think. Is our J/P'ness based on which cognitive functions we mostly use rather than being a personality tread on its own??
- secondly I think the development of inferior functions can also have an influence on how J or P you are. When an INFJ has developed there Se function it would them therefore make them seem even more P'sh
if they cleaned there act up they wouldn't be narcissists
so you do enforce your morals onto other people. Narcism is not a good way to live so you would only be friends with them if they take over your moral and stop being narcistic
//sneaks up on you and goes BOO!Yes.
J and P does come from our cognitive functions, and it largely emerges from how much gets filtered into the extroverted functions. Ni Ti Fi and Si themselves don't impact the J/P axis that much, however how much they get filtered does. Everything I think and do eventually gets filtered through my Fe in some way, which is why my J is so damn high, in addition to me using Fe first then linking it to the other functions. My Se usually gets kicked in the dirt so I ignore most of it.
Yes.
J and P does come from our cognitive functions, and it largely emerges from how much gets filtered into the extroverted functions. Ni Ti Fi and Si themselves don't impact the J/P axis that much, however how much they get filtered does. Everything I think and do eventually gets filtered through my Fe in some way, which is why my J is so damn high, in addition to me using Fe first then linking it to the other functions. My Se usually gets kicked in the dirt so I ignore most of it.
No no no.
Not wanting to hang around with horrible people but being forgiving of people willing to change doesn't mean I enforce my morals onto other people.
They don't have to have my morals. They don't have to change specifically how I'd like them to change. They just have to not victimise people, lie constantly and twist everything I say.
I find that I am very much J, but I could understand how one might think some of my tendencies are P-like, although I find that these P-like tendencies only appear in my external world. Because my Ni is dominant, I find that I can live with a a messy desk, for example. As long as my mind is organized, I'm good. Also, aren't Introverts as a whole sometimes less obligated to social obligation? What I mean are things like paying bills or returning a phone call. If someone ends up paying a bill late, it could be perceived as a P tendency. I know that I tend to push "social obligations" aside.
huh?
but it is enforcing your morals onto others. Because your moral is "you shouldn't victimuse others". This is not a moral of them since they are victimising others. So if you ask them to "not victimise people" you enforce your morals on them,
they have to behave according to your morals or else you can't be friends with them...
Lmao!
I'm the Anti-Indy!
Ok I see your point but with that reasoning you could say everybody enforces their morals on others. Everyone would like at least someone to do something different.
Anyone who disagrees with serial killers, peodophiles, nazis, rapists, kidnappers etc would fall into that category. that doesn't make them P or make them the type of person who the phrase "you enforce your morals on others" fits.
I think you are over generalising my statement. I don't agree with this part of the quote. People don't have to behave according to my morals to be my friends. I find different points of view interesting.
one of my morals is that you need to be conciderate to others. You can't always get it your way and should therefore seek for a common ground an middle road where everyone is happy. Some of my friends think differently. They think that you should never have to do anything that you don't want to do (we are talking about eating pizza when you want to eat pasta, not doing something ilegal ). Therefore if I go out with them and want to eat pizza and they want to eat pasta, their solution would be that I go and eat pizza and they go and eat pasta since no one shoud have to eat what they don't want to eat. That is when I blow up since I think they should be more conciderate to other people and not be so selfish.
is that an example of enforcing my morals to others?
I suppose that makes you great at taking people out of their little boxes and haven't head-desked once in your life. Don't tell me you're a literature major, because that'd be the cherry on top
I think it can be summed my saying INFP's expect people to see things from their point of view. They believe all they need do is explain their position and everyone will immediately understand and change their opinions to match. Obviously this rarely happens and this causes the INFP no small amount of emotional distress. They don't understand how anyone can see things differently to how they see them.