Deleted member 16771, you don't seem all that '8-ish' to me. You strike me as 1, 5, something.
(But I could be wrong. Surface impressions and all.)
Well I don't see how we could express '8ness' here, apart from banging on about being dominant or something the whole time in a rather superficial way.
I'm just trying to figure out a way to express my real-world assertiveness in enneagram terms... the need to take control of things if the nominal leaders are incompetent; the irrepressible urge to call out bullshit and go to war with the corrupt (and incompetent), &c. Even socially I have a tendency to drive the conversation (though it's not antisocial).
There's a whole 'forceful' side to my personality that previously I thought could be expressed in terms of E1 - that it's related to an inner paragon and need for absolute ideals to be upheld, but recently I'm just examining the contours of E8 and checking for fit.
Instinctively, '1 assertiveness' seems more comfortable - in metaphorical terms it's a cold, immovable, aloof kind of impulse which cannot but insist that the most competent people are executing the most important functions -
even if that person is me.* '8 assertiveness', by contrast, seems more fiery and driven - about power for its own sake rather than about
what's right or ideal.
Still investigating.
*As a younger man, this translated into a need to be recognised as 'the best' as an element of my arrogance. I'm exaggerating, since even then I think I was self-aware enough of it not to let it bug people, and feigned a kind of humility and graciousness that I didn't feel. That's largely gone by now, though.
