I have a much simpler and more effective plan to eliminate illegal immigration: make all immigration legal.
Immigration already is legal. Some people just don't want to go through the proper channels because it is a lengthy and expensive process.
I have a much simpler and more effective plan to eliminate illegal immigration: make all immigration legal.
Then it is Arizona's problem. If a local officer decides to bug Hispanic citizens using this law, then it would be a violation of their 14th amendment rights, Section 1.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The state would be sued, lose a lot of money and the law would likely be overturned by a high court. As such, it falls on Arizona to train their local law enforcement to be very careful about who they question.
Regardless, it's how our courts operate. It's how we as citizens are treated.
Immigration already is legal. Some people just don't want to go through the proper channels because it is a lengthy and expensive process.
Illegal Immigrants arn't U.S. Citizens
Again, how else can they enforce this law without racial profiling? Also, trusting law enforcement is the last thing I want to do. "Yeah, lets trust those who can do as they wish with us. They're sure to have our best interests at heart."She said racial profiling would not be tolerated, adding, “We have to trust our law enforcement.”
it's not just lengthy and expensive, it's IMPOSSIBLE for a large percentage of the desiring population to qualify, have a heart.. people are only looking for a better life. immigration policies are unfair to begin with.
what about the citizens whom are/could be harassed for not carrying "papers"?
I agree, but I think that we cant trust our own police is a different problem.Again, how else can they enforce this law without racial profiling? Also, trusting law enforcement is the last thing I want to do. "Yeah, lets trust those who can do as they wish with us. They're sure to have our best interests at heart."
You are right. They came here and killed most of the residents.I reiterate, many of our ancestors did not "immigrate" here legally,
So should we give it back?and the land of Arizona was stolen from Mexico (and the Mexicans living on it) through the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
Then we need immigration reform.
Again, how else can they enforce this law without racial profiling? Also, trusting law enforcement is the last thing I want to do. "Yeah, lets trust those who can do as they wish with us. They're sure to have our best interests at heart."
easier said than done, reforms take time and a great deal of cooperation amongst politicians, who are notorious for delaying important decisions. in the meantime people suffer. why wouldn't they try to immigrate illegally? you underestimate the desperation of people who do these kinds of things, they don't have very many other options & are well aware of the risks of being caught and deported back to their home countries.
Yes, but how long could it be until being Hispanic in appearance is suspicion enough for committing a crime; the crime of illegal immigration? As a kid I was stopped numerous times by police out of "suspicion" and I doubt it was any more than being a punky looking kid.It will be interesting to see how Arizona enforces the law. In essence, its more meant to send a message than actually be enforced. Only people who are already under suspicion of committing a crime can be questioned. As such, its not like the cops can stop every Hispanic on the street and ask them for their papers.
Do you HONESTLY think the police department will simply respect the rights of citizens, just because the amendment tells them to?
But how many people will be harassed before someone who can actually afford to challenge the state comes along?Like I said, it is Arizona's problem. The state is bound to lose a lot of money if it handles the law poorly.
Illegal Immigrants arn't U.S. Citizens
But how many people will be harassed before someone who can actually afford to challenge the state comes along?