So only nurses/caretakers, firemen/medics, water distribution system workers, etc should keep supporting the corruption?
So only nurses/caretakers, firemen/medics, water distribution system workers, etc should keep supporting the corruption?
I hadn't heard of that. Pretty interesting. Thank you.Sounds like Pitcairn Island. A society created by Fletcher Christian and the survivors of the Bounty.
There is no such thing as "naturally" in human societies, there is social engineering everywhere. I think the problem is people that have been over-conditioned into an employment mentality get completely deluded into thinking "jobs" are some kind of good thing. Dude who convinced you that it was a good idea to trade the best hours of the best days of your life for some piddly hand out from a corporation? Do you think working a job makes you self reliant? If so, what happens if a company decides they don't need you anymore? Real self-reliance, is not being provided work, so you can be provided a little money hand out. Self-reliance is being in control of your own financial destiny from an income you have created for yourself in a way that you've leveraged something that makes you enough money, that money no longer concerns you.
I'm not talking about a utopia here, I'm talking about an elimination of a kind of slavery. Monetary coercion is still coercion.
Anyway, implying that I made a "passive aggressive demand" seems to be a pretty uncharitable assumption about where I was going with this. I merely would like to think at the very least that if one sees the value in creating a better world, that they would try and do so. And for the record, I intend to be wealthy myself, and through my own efforts.
Self-reliance? So what do you DO, exactly? Are you a hunter-gatherer? A farmer? Do you live with a cult? It sounds like you've got it all figured out-- tell me, what's the answer?
I personally am NOT currently trading the best hours of the best days of my life for a 'piddly handout from a corporation', I'm doing something that enjoy-- if I didn't enjoy it or believe in it, then I'd probably be doing something else. There's stress, sure
Let us imagine the impact this will have.
Everyone must quit. (Exceptions for nurses/caretakers, firemen/medics, water distribution system workers, etc...)
Stop supporting this corruption.
We can do it! Do not be afraid!
We can all quit together and we can wipe the slate clean.
Clear all debt and drop the Mason Money!
Imagine...
[MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION], thank you for shedding some light on the issues.
I hope everyone is able to open their minds and hearts to the reality we collectively face.
It truly does come down to the choice we make between Fear and Love.
Our internal struggles are made visible with the problems we face in the external world.
Fear is what truly cripples and limits us.
We only limit ourselves when we give in to fear.
The battle is first fought within.
The choice comes back to every individual.
We must all account for our own action.
The Game of Life : Creating Your Own Reality
Imagine that you are about to participate in an interactive role-playing game. There are rules in this game that everyone agrees to: what goes up must come down, day is followed by night, if you touch a flame it will burn you, etc. etc. You get to choose the character you play beforehand; shall I be black or white, Australian or American, male or female? You might even choose to meet up with others in the game, which is tricky because you won
Jack, I don't really understand what you're getting at-- if you're saying that people should be richer, happier, healthier, and more responsible, then yeah, that would be nice
Less than 50k? probably a lot. That said, how many of those people would interpret their lives as being the life of a completely epic rockstar like you by working 40+ hours and coming home tired? How many of those people are actually coerced into overtime? How many actually dread going to work, or have family problems because they barely have time to spend with their spouse or their kids? (my point is you were unusual because you liked having no time, having a 40+ hour work week, etc. I never assumed you made good money) Whether or not you have any take on the TP or OWS movements, I hope you can understand that there's economic turmoil for a reason. Look I have no doubt you can "make it", and I have no doubt that everyone will "get through" or be able to afford *something, even if it isn't nice if they're able to scrimp and save. People can be happy with less, but in the end, no one looks back at the end of their life and says "damn, I wish I had spent more time in the factory." And that is the very crux of the matter. To some people, money is like air or water, they don't need to think about it because they have enough, and it comes to them without constantly having to put effort into it. They have the ability to spend their time pursing dreams, and goals, and ambitions, things they're passionate about and that they love, with people they love.Not that this thread is about me, but I said I was lower middle class-- that means less than 50k/year. Do you honestly think that there is anything special about that? I'm much closer to the burger flippers than the CEOs. My point was that I'm actually NOT special in any way. How many people in America do you think make the same as I do?
Oh, well good then.Jack, I don't really understand what you're getting at-- if you're saying that people should be richer, happier, healthier, and more responsible, then yeah, that would be nice… but I think that that goes without saying.
I understand that sentiment. I would say though, that there should be a goal that we move towards that provides freedom to everyone, and I think we have some idea of what that looks like. Whether the change is incremental, or swift. That said, I personally favor swift. I don't know how much longer America, with it's massive top heavy government will last.I'm not saying that society is perfect or shouldn't change… I just don't think that it needs to be radically changed.