and the most funny thing of it all is that they hate Jews but they preach from the old testament
don't they know that the old testament was written by Jews? How can you love the book but hate the authors????
Good point Morgan!!!
and the most funny thing of it all is that they hate Jews but they preach from the old testament
don't they know that the old testament was written by Jews? How can you love the book but hate the authors????
Good point Morgan!and the most funny thing of it all is that they hate Jews but they preach from the old testament
don't they know that the old testament was written by Jews? How can you love the book but hate the authors????
Yet why is it that I so strongly feel its unacceptable to maliciously celebrate someones death like that and yet make the exception for Hitler?
Come on, Hitler was a human but NOT a decent one. And I dont even consider that an opinion.
You cannot compare one person to millions of soldiers!
Besides, this hate group's celebration for that 'god killed soldiers because of homosexuals in USA'... is COMPLETELY different to that of people celebrating the end of Hitler's reign.
They hate Jews because Jews aren't Christians. It's that simple. Christians say the OT was preparing the world for the messiah.
WB thinks Jews should have converted back when Jesus was preaching, instead, they decided he wasn't the messiah because the prophesies regarding the messiah in their book did not coincide with the way Jesus represented himself.
The existence of Jews, in their minds, poses a threat to their beliefs, though they'd probably try to appear more noble about it and say their existence is like a slap in the face of their god.
Yup, yup. And to further elaborate:
Jesus was a Jew. He lived and practised the Jewish faith and adhered to its customs; He never questioned them. Nor did He ever claim that He was the Messiah (that's only Luke's Gospel, which was written a hundred years apart from Mark, Matthew and John and just about the time that Early Christianity was on its way).
Early Christian converts were encouraged to follow Jewish laws and traditions. Jesus never had any intention of starting a new religion, let alone seperating entirely from Judaism. It wasn't until Saul (Paul) came along, claimed he saw Jesus on the road to Damascus and that Jesus had instructed him to start converting the gentiles. Then Paul began to explore Jesus' teachings about forgiveness and developed the doctrine of Atonement that formally introduced the concept of Jesus' 'dying for our sins' and being 'born again into the Kingdom of God.' Coupled with the fact that Paul ended up dropping a lot of the Jewish laws that might discourage potential converts--such as circumscion-- you can see these as the beginnings of Christianity in a nutshell.
But overall, the problem with interpreting ancient texts like the Bible is that the culture and the way that people conveyed information is much different from the way we communicate today. Because it was a chiefly oral culture, metaphors and anecdotes were the best way to committ teachings to memory. Another thing was that they heavily relied on symbols and archetypes, some of which were mixed by the clash of culture, and some of which have lost their meanings over the last several centuries. Coupled with the fact that the Bible was compiled at different times, translated, and possibly even manipulated to meet various political ends, taking a text like this literally is just imbecilic ignorance to the complexity of our own history.
If you quote the Bible (or any sacrad text for that matter) without a regard for context, and expect that to speak for itself... Jesus kills a kitten.
^^^ But the question is, besides insuring that her kinds will be complete whack jobs with extreme hatred towards groups of people, is she emotionally or physically abusive to them? It's a slippery slope seeing as their 'religion' is involved. As twisted as it is, she has the right to teach her children to hate and spew their words of hate.
Yeah, I mean as sad as it is, these kids (from what I've seen, which admittedly is very little) seem happy. I mean, as insane as these people are, they could still be 'good' parents in aspects other than force feeding their hate to their kids and condemning them to a life of hate and bigotry. I'd think taking the kids away would end up doing them even more harm in the long run, psychologically.I've watched that full documentary; it doesn't seem like the kids are being physically abused, they seem to enjoy their lives. I'd say the brainwashing is emotional abuse, but they've been conditioned for so long it probably feels normal to them
And on one's stopping them from speaking their mind. But when this becomes trespassing, defamation of character, and disturbing the peace you've just crossed a new line.
Why soldiers as well? If they hate *everyone* and say the whole US is condemned, and that people worship the dead at the soldier's funerals, then why not go to every funeral in town? Why decide one group is more important to picket than another?
The hypocrisy this group shows is staggering. Plus, it just makes all Christians look bad.
Yeah, I mean as sad as it is, these kids (from what I've seen, which admittedly is very little) seem happy. I mean, as insane as these people are, they could still be 'good' parents in aspects other than force feeding their hate to their kids and condemning them to a life of hate and bigotry. I'd think taking the kids away would end up doing them even more harm in the long run, psychologically.
All parents force feed their views on their kids. Children are highly impressionable. Even if the parents don't sit down and tell their kids how to act or think, they model their behavior from their parents. The Westboro Baptist Church is teaching their kids an ideology (granted I think it's twisted and wrong) but everyone teaches their kids an ideology. You can't escape the fact that no matter what your views are, they are nothing more than that; they are an ideology and they are views.Honestly anyone who force feeds such dribble to there children is not a good parent. Just becasue a child is happly ignorant dosen't mean there well as a human being.
I feel sorry for those poor kids. What a sad life they will live. And not even a chance for a different choice.
Yup, yup. And to further elaborate:
Jesus was a Jew. He lived and practised the Jewish faith and adhered to its customs; He never questioned them. Nor did He ever claim that He was the Messiah (that's only Luke's Gospel, which was written a hundred years apart from Mark, Matthew and John and just about the time that Early Christianity was on its way).
Early Christian converts were encouraged to follow Jewish laws and traditions. Jesus never had any intention of starting a new religion, let alone seperating entirely from Judaism. It wasn't until Saul (Paul) came along, claimed he saw Jesus on the road to Damascus and that Jesus had instructed him to start converting the gentiles. Then Paul began to explore Jesus' teachings about forgiveness and developed the doctrine of Atonement that formally introduced the concept of Jesus' 'dying for our sins' and being 'born again into the Kingdom of God.' Coupled with the fact that Paul ended up dropping a lot of the Jewish laws that might discourage potential converts--such as circumscion-- you can see these as the beginnings of Christianity in a nutshell.
But overall, the problem with interpreting ancient texts like the Bible is that the culture and the way that people conveyed information is much different from the way we communicate today. Because it was a chiefly oral culture, metaphors and anecdotes were the best way to committ teachings to memory. Another thing was that they heavily relied on symbols and archetypes, some of which were mixed by the clash of culture, and some of which have lost their meanings over the last several centuries. Coupled with the fact that the Bible was compiled at different times, translated, and possibly even manipulated to meet various political ends, taking a text like this literally is just imbecilic ignorance to the complexity of our own history.
If you quote the Bible (or any sacrad text for that matter) without a regard for context, and expect that to speak for itself... Jesus kills a kitten.
I believe that idiots should have their children taken away, but I think she has full right to be an idiot.
Shai Gar said:...a good artist...
That is true. However, I read that many were lured and manipulated into the Nazi party.
Well he was nice to his dog, until he killed it.Pristinegirl said:I just feel that someone saying Hitler was a loving person ought to be wrong.
I'm not saying you have to get along with them, I wouldn't either, I'm just saying you have to respect their right to voice their opinion. The point I've been trying to make is that freedom of speech has to be absolute because morality is inherently subjective. There is no objective "right" or "wrong", it's all just based on personal opinion. This is why no-one must be allowed to censure any particular viewpoint, because no-one can be the ultimate arbiter of what is "good" or "bad" for anybody but themselves.Like you, I feel he was a mass murdering swine. Obviously it is a subjective opinion and live and let live right, but I probably wouldn't get a long with someone who claimed he was decent.
The journalist in the video seemed like he was trying to understand them. It's hard to see an idiot's point of view.