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Eventhorizon said:
There are obviously varying degrees of implementation. SocialIsm takes away an individuals choice.
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How so? I drink Diet Coca-Cola, drive a Chevy and enjoy t-bone steaks. Because the government pays for my college tuition, I can afford to live pretty well.

Eventhorizon said:
Your measure of sucess is susceptible to propaganda reporting just like anywhere else in the world. Anyone who comes to speak out against it silenced if and when needed.
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Here's how the CIA describes the Danish economy:

This thoroughly modern market economy features a high-tech agricultural sector, state-of-the-art industry with world-leading firms in pharmaceuticals, maritime shipping and renewable energy, and a high dependence on foreign trade.

To address your claims of silencing negative opinions:

Denmark is rated #3 on the Reporters Without Borders 2015 Freedom of Press list. The list represents the list of countries with the most freedom for reporters, along with the amount of government suppression.

The US is #49. They cite the arrest of 15 journalists as a reason for the low score.

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As for the economy:

Denmark has an S&P and Moody's credit rating for AAA, which is the highest possible score. They report that the Danish economy is 99% secure.

For comparisons sake, the US has a credit score of AA+ (second best) and 97% stable

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Eventhorizon said:
I would suspect that if you claim to be socialist thats because you dont actually understand what it means but... maybe I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you fully understand what it means and love it. In which case you and I would have a vastly different opinion on how we want to live our lives.
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I come from a politically varied family. My father and middle brother are social democrats like myself, my mother is a social-liberal, my older brother is a socialist. We have always discussed politics, and I come from a very political family. I have friends from all over the political spectrum, in fact I have friends that are in the parliament, and one of my friends was the minister of social justice from 2011-2013. I know politics, and I love politics.

Here's how I see socialism. It's not perfect. It doesn't have all of the answers to the problems of the world. That's why I'm a social democrat. I believe in equal opportunity, free health care and upward mobility. However, I also believe in a strong private sector and business incentives. In bad times you invest heavily in infrastructure and public jobs to keep employment up and your private sector going.

You probably see me as a socialist, and I would definitely be defined as one in the US, but the truth is that I'm very far from it. I believe in some of the tenants, but I don't want to put all of my eggs in one basket. Individual freedom and prosperity is key to a strong society.

Denmark has been voted the happiest people in the world twice these last 5 years. That is a result of a strong economy, hard working people and a very highly developed, specialist driven workforce. When people are working and living out of poverty, everyone benefits.

That's how I see it.
 
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ezra said:
How so? I drink Diet Coca-Cola, drive a Chevy and enjoy t-bone steaks. Because the government pays for my college tuition, I can afford to live pretty well.



Here's how the CIA describes the Danish economy:

This thoroughly modern market economy features a high-tech agricultural sector, state-of-the-art industry with world-leading firms in pharmaceuticals, maritime shipping and renewable energy, and a high dependence on foreign trade.

To address your claims of silencing negative opinions:

Denmark is rated #3 on the Reporters Without Borders 2015 Freedom of Press list. The list represents the list of countries with the most freedom for reporters, along with the amount of government suppression.

The US is #49. They cite the arrest of 15 journalists as a reason for the low score.

source

As for the economy:

Denmark has an S&P and Moody's credit rating for AAA, which is the highest possible score. They report that the Danish economy is 99% secure.

For comparisons sake, the US has a credit score of AA+ (second best) and 97% stable

source



I come from a politically varied family. My father and middle brother are social democrats like myself, my mother is a social-liberal, my older brother is a socialist. We have always discussed politics, and I come from a very political family. I have friends from all over the political spectrum, in fact I have friends that are in the parliament, and one of my friends was the minister of social justice from 2011-2013. I know politics, and I love politics.

Here's how I see socialism. It's not perfect. It doesn't have all of the answers to the problems of the world. That's why I'm a social democrat. I believe in equal opportunity, free health care and upward mobility. However, I also believe in a strong private sector and business incentives. In bad times you invest heavily in infrastructure and public jobs to keep employment up and your private sector going.

You probably see me as a socialist, and I would definitely be defined as one in the US, but the truth is that I'm very far from it. I believe in some of the tenants, but I don't want to put all of my eggs in one basket. Individual freedom and prosperity is key to a strong society.

Denmark has been voted the happiest people in the world twice these last 5 years. That is a result of a strong economy, hard working people and a very highly developed, specialist driven workforce. When people are working and living out of poverty, everyone benefits.

That's how I see it.
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Good information. It forces me to compare your form of socialism with the more moderate forms and because I know nothing of Demark or how it functions with its form of government I cant do that without a good bit of research. This means I cant continue the conversation.
I can say that what must be more serious forms of socialism have failed in the world. Either yours is a seriously watered down form or....enough time has not passed for it to be rejected.
Perhaps Demark thinks its happy because it doesnt know what its missing.
 
The more Trump talks the more he reminds me of a child throwing a temper tantrum. Sorry but you need more than provocative statements concerning illegal aliens to be President.
As of now Im not entirely sure I would vote for you even if it hands a Democrat the Presidency.
 
[MENTION=2240]rawr[/MENTION] Please close this thread. It was allowed to be sabotaged and at this point easily confused with another similar named thread. Ill be creating another one.
 
good point!
 
I cant wait to pick the boot that will stand on my neck!
 
FU 2016

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JJJA said:
FU 2016

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You know, I bet if he ran…the sheep in the US would vote for him regardless of his platform. ^^
 
I'd like to request we keep this thread on-topic to actual candidates situations/issues regarding the 2016 election.
 
[MENTION=8603]Eventhorizon[/MENTION]

Thoughts and ideas about who the best candidate will be. This should probably be limited to conservative or libertarian candidates as a result.
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Statements like this are infuriating to me. All I can say its a good thing I live in Canada where sanity is now prevailing. If Americans had any sense at all Sanders would be president. He is only one with a comprehensive plan to address the true issues In America now and undo the massive fraud known as the "Reagan Revolution"
 
brightmoon said:
[MENTION=8603]Eventhorizon[/MENTION]



Statements like this are infuriating to me. All I can say its a good thing I live in Canada where sanity is now prevailing. If Americans had any sense at all Sanders would be president. He is only one with a comprehensive plan to address the true issues In America now and undo the massive fraud known as the "Reagan Revolution"
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You see the world differently than I do.
 
As a liberal Canadian, yes [MENTION=8603]Eventhorizon[/MENTION] that much is certainly true.
 
[video=youtube;DnpO_RTSNmQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ[/video]
 
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There is absolutely something unstable with Trump. At first I thought it was an act but now realize its part of his personality.
I cant and wont support socialism ever but... Trump is absolutely not the President we need.
I mean.. we had Obama and who thought it could ever get worse. If we have Trump its like we are daring the gods to up themselves.
 
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