Prediction: Gay Marriage Will Fail

don't give up the fight! Same sex mariages are legalized in my country and others. So it must be possible in the US as well in the future!

 

I don't mind if they marry, but would never agree with them being legally allowed to bring up children as a 'family' for obvious reasons. Kids have enough to worry about at school besides having two dads or a couple of mothers.

 

same here!

 

+1

 

same counts for split and rearanged families. What is worse, having two moms or having a rearanged family and having to move from one place to the other. A friend of mine has a mom and dad, a brother, a step dad, an ex-step dad, an ex step mom, an ex step brother, 2 half brothers from different dads and a half sister... now that is confusing!

 

I advise all couples, gay or straight to reject legal marriage all together.

love is NOT a contract.

 

Yup, agreed 100% besides studies have shown that countries which allow gay couples to adopt show that children raised under gay couples typically grow up to be as good or even better then children raised by heterosexual couples, it is not the parents sexual orientation but maturity and the gay person would be mature enough like any other parent to guide their child. We are constantly discriminated against or made fun of, we usually have to go through a lot and its this sort of strength and experience which makes a gay parent capable of raising children.

 

Personally, I don't think it will fail - just take longer. The younger generations, like mine, are slowly getting older which means there will be more weight behind legalizing gay marriage as Generation X enters politics at an age that we are listened to.

 

As an idealist I hope not.

 

I'm with what Moxie said. It is a matter of time. I hope when that time comes, the process will be more smooth, but it really is a matter of time.

Kids are made fun of for endless reasons. Having gay parents can be one of the more serious reasons why someone could be bullied, but it is by no means the only one. And I don't believe it's reason enough to deny gay couples the right to parenthood and familyhood. I see it in this way: If kids make fun of other kids for their family, an issue is clearly at hand. Avoiding that issue won't resolve it; it will simply manifest in other ways, at other times, and will need to be dealt with. In my opinion, the problem isn't with the gay parents, it never was. And until we can find stories and statistics to suggest that gay parenting is any more detrimental than heterosexual parenting (because we hear about those horrors all the time), I don't understand what the argument against it is.

This always seems like such a speculated topic. I'm interested to know more about the experiences of children of gay parents.

 

But as you said elsewhere in the post, wouldn't throwing in the towel now undermine a lot of the superficial support for civil unions as well? What the advocates need is more numbers and funding to push it on both fronts.

Btw, did you notice that that "Gathering Storm" ad has an average one-star rating with more than 21,000 votes? That's huge.

 

Good point, if you compare having 2 mums or dads who are stable and secure to a 'normal' family who are unstable and divorced and then remarried etc etc, then I would agree with you.

I made my comment applying it to myself, but for a kids who grew up with it, it wouldn't be an issue I guess, apart from possible bullying at school.

Good point about gay parents having to go through a lot and therefore have an 'extra' strength, but that is not a strength others cannot offer. For example my mum was bullied terribly at school and I think it's that that has given her an advantage in raising me.

I would not go as far as advocating gay adoptions, but in light of the arguments I've seen I would accept them if the alternatives were worse.

 

Wow, I am sorry you're feeling overwhelmed.. and I've never told you this but I am really glad that you're here. You continually keep me aware of the battle that you and other homosexual people are going through right at this moment. I hate the discrimination that you're constantly faced with...

But I must admit this statement that I quoted above doesn't sound at all like the Satya that I have come to admire at all, so I feel like you should know that you are strong, and your voice is heard. It may just be by a few right now, but a few, given time.. can often turn to many.

I know that all of the evidence is pointing to many major setbacks in your fight, and in my opinion it is an extreme injustice... but do not throw in the towel. I agree with Moxie that it's just going to take more time. And people need to see and talk about this in order for things to change. So please... please, keep bringing it up, no matter who does or doesn't like it. Everyone should be given equal rights... I mean, isn't that what America is supposed to stand for?

I want to give you cyber hug now.. but I'm going to go with one of these instead.. because I get the feeling you're not much for hugging......

 

Is it sad that I'm starting to think a division into two countries would be the most effective means for peace? Just draw a big line down the middle and let people who hate others living their lives differently take one half that we never need to look at again, and the rest of us who are accepting of it are perfectly fine with it enjoy ours?

Regardless, the fact that this is failing just pushes the idea of 'separation of church and state' that much further from any sign of ever having existed. This is exactly why I hate politics. It's like playing a game of tag where the rules change to only benefit the snobby brat kid.

/rant before I get too pissy.

Actually, as a side note: I wouldn't even care about the lack of religion and politics being separate if it wasn't for the fact that the ones in power are either too gung-ho about the 'homosexuality is a sin and is poisoning humanity" crap, or totally afraid of the idea of difference in general. It's a shame, because I know not all Christians are anti-gay rights.

The whole situation is stupid to even be in debate.

 

Heh, that sounds great in theory, but I think the last time we did something like that it was called The Civil War, and it kinda sucked.

I believe in the good old U.S.A. even though she is really flawed. Eventually, we'll do the right thing. It is just going to take time, and even then it won't be perfect.