I'm sorry but, if you consider yourself an expert, that might not be enough to dismiss everything that everyone else is saying here.
An expert on nutrition, not an expert in medicine and health. Those are two different things
I'm sorry but, if you consider yourself an expert, that might not be enough to dismiss everything that everyone else is saying here.
Being overweight is ideal in terms of life expectancy, obese and "normal/healthy" are equal and underweight people have the shortest life expectancy.
Do you have some evidence to support that assertion?
Okay, so there are obese people who eat well and are active, but seriously, what percentage of obese people do they actually constitute? Does anyone know? I'm willing to bet that most obese people are obese because they have starbucks for breakfast, a Bigmac and Mcflurry washed down with a gigantic soda for lunch, and some other garbage for dinner, with icecream and cookies as snacks. Obviously, I'm exaggerating, but you see the point that people consume way too much carbs and sugars (WAY TOO MUCH HFCS) and not enough protein and good fat (i.e. vegetable oil, nuts). If you're an "obese" vegitarian who runs marathrons, you don't have to worry, but don't make the mistake in thinking that those kind of obese people are common. I wont believe it until I see evidence otherwise.
I believe that eating poorly results in obesity as well as health problems, so there is a correlation between being obese and health problems, but the real problem is eating poorly, particularly all the over-procesed junk that passes for food in this country (U.S.A.). Does anyone here honestly want to bet that if you were to go down to the nearest walmart and pick an obese person at random, that that person eats well?
I just don't see how this doesn't make sense. You are what you eat. If you eat massive amounts of junk food, which is caused by poor emotion-ridden eating habits, it is going to affect you. Genetics doesn't make you drink soda and eat donuts; that is a decision you make. Ugg.......
I do agree that obesity shouldn't be stigmatized, but I bet most of people who say that are hypocrites because if I were to bring up some other class related stigmatization, they will probably say those things are bad, divorce for example. Instead of viewing these issues through the lens of class bias, they need to be viewed in terms of the health of the people involved.
I hate hearing the zounds excuses people use to justify not taking an active interest in their personal health and well being. Glands, government, carbs, gluten, Saturated fats, MSG, etc etc so on and so forth are NOT the problem.
The problem is laziness and ignorance.
We live in a culture of ease, no one has to walk a mile to get themselves fed anymore, no one has to grow their own food, no one has to do anything except drive up to a window and give money to someone.
People need to educate themselves on how caloric intake, and metabolism works and what healthy food is. Crying that the US government subsidizes corn is retarded. It doesn't justify people making the poor choice of consuming it all.
If you want to be healthy you need EXERCISE, DAILY. In addition to that you need to understand PORTION CONTROL. Once you have that down the most fat you can have would be a small spare tire around your mid section which can be EASILY fixed with the addition of learning about FOOD QUALITY. I could eat Big Macs every day if I wanted to and I wouldn't gain weight, why? because I run every night before I go to bed, I hike mountains on the weekends, I do active things in my free time. I don't watch TV much and I don't sit in front of a computer all day. Even if I did, I would still fit in regular exercise.
Obesity should be a moral issue, a personal issue. Not a governmental issue, I don't need the government to ban trans fats and twinkies, I dont eat them by my own choice. But I dont think it should be denied to me, I am not a child. I dont smoke and I rarely drink, those shouldnt be banned because they are bad for me either.
Exactly, there is NO SUCH THING as an obese person who eats healthy. Its not possible. You cannot gain weight unless you have an excess of caloric intake. And if that excess is coming from sugar ridden gluten based carbs in huge amounts you are not going to maintain a healthy body.
You can have a slow slow metabolism with gland issues, but you still wont gain weight if you are eating the proper foods and in the proper amounts. Slow metabolisms and glands are only a fraction of the problem. I have a seriously slow metabolism unlike my brothers. I will cheat on my healthy diet on occasion but if I make a week of it I gain weight quickly, whereas other people might not. That weight gain doesn't happen though when I stick to my regular diet which is based heavily on simple fibrous carbs, proteins, and water topped off with lots of physical activity.
Exactly, there is NO SUCH THING as an obese person who eats healthy. Its not possible.
Patently false. We do know how to make people thinner. In fact, he agrees with me before that quote:
Right, so we do know how to make people thinner then! But it's just that the way we know how is bad and doesn't work for anyone?
Wait, so in some cases it does work? Wow, I'm totally buying what this guy who's contradicting himself in his own article is selling as gospel here.
There's compelling evidence that this "disordered behavior" might in fact lengthen lifespans. Maybe it doesn't work, but what evidence does he have that reducing your caloric intake is "disordered behaviour"? It's just weasel wording designed to give you a gut reaction towards dieting, that its bad. Not hard to do, since most people hate dieting to begin with!
I also find that article about how thin people can't stay fat, and how fat people can't stay thin very interesting. I used to have a BMI of under 19, and I wasn't doing anything in particular to get it that low. I didn't exercise and I didn't eat abnormally little. I started eating to gain weight and over a period gained weight, settled into my new routine, and held a BMI of around 25.
Then in my mid 20s something about my body changed and the old pattern no longer held. I went up to as high as 76kg. I changed my habits again and I lost 12kg so far, that's over 25 pounds for the interested.
So apparently some people can lose and keep off, or gain and keep on, an extra 30-60 pounds, as I'm living proof. Which makes the whole "it's futile" argument pointless and self indulgent defeatism.
But this guy is selling defeatism, platitudes, weasel words and, in a word, snake oil, and I find it sad to see anyone embracing this as some sort of excuse to not even try because some guy on the internet says "it can't be done anyway" without even providing any proof.
Being obese goes to show that you are eating unhealthy food and in excess, this isn't in any way good for the body.
So lets drop the bullshit that fat people are healthy
Assumptions like this are to blame for many people with serious metabolism problems having their "impossible" circumstances ignored by doctors.
There are people whose bodies react to diet and exercise in baffling ways. Instead of burning fat, the body can enter "starvation mode" and practically attempt to hibernate (severe narcolepsy) in order to conserve calories. There are people who will gain weight on 500 calories per day (while still feeling hungry all the time). Doctors, who are accustomed to people exaggerating their efforts, will usually disbelieve such stories, and send the patients home only with further prodding to "eat right and exercise more."
Assumptions like this are to blame for many people with serious metabolism problems having their "impossible" circumstances ignored by doctors.
There are people whose bodies react to diet and exercise in baffling ways. Instead of burning fat, the body can enter "starvation mode" and practically attempt to hibernate (severe narcolepsy) in order to conserve calories. There are people who will gain weight on 500 calories per day (while still feeling hungry all the time). Doctors, who are accustomed to people exaggerating their efforts, will usually disbelieve such stories, and send the patients home only with further prodding to "eat right and exercise more."
Okay, so there are obese people who eat well and are active, but seriously, what percentage of obese people do they actually constitute? Does anyone know?
If you're an "obese" vegitarian who runs marathrons, you don't have to worry, but don't make the mistake in thinking that those kind of obese people are common. I wont believe it until I see evidence otherwise.
I believe that eating poorly results in obesity as well as health problems, so there is a correlation between being obese and health problems, but the real problem is eating poorly, particularly all the over-procesed junk that passes for food in this country (U.S.A.). Does anyone here honestly want to bet that if you were to go down to the nearest walmart and pick an obese person at random, that that person eats well?
I just don't see how this doesn't make sense. You are what you eat. If you eat massive amounts of junk food, which is caused by poor emotion-ridden eating habits, it is going to affect you. Genetics doesn't make you drink soda and eat donuts; that is a decision you make. Ugg.......
Exactly, there is NO SUCH THING as an obese person who eats healthy. Its not possible.