so, then. You're implying that this stranger is like that? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Men: are women worth the effort?
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I don't get it because I never got the impression OP is a sadist who enjoys seeing women maimed or that he's giving off Elliot Rodger vibes. Elliot Rogers was a malignant narcissist and I happen to have read some of his posts and this guy is nowhere near Rodger's casual detachment from reality and lunacy.That's quite big leap from contemplating whether it's worth it to pursue women and noting they prefer a certain type of guy (handsome athletic popular "Chad") over average guys. Some people seem unnecessarily incensed over this thread. (not referring to you souvenir). I think we can afford him a bit of benefit of the doubt instead of projecting all of the misogynist psychopaths the internet has to offer on the OP.
I like to think so but maybe I made it worse, what else can you do?
Why is this thread still going by the way? If OP hasn't returned this is getting sad.
5 votes "yes" to close it, then we close it? Idk. I kept having the thought that the OP hadn't returned, too.
I've only sifted through the thread, maybe I should go through it more thoroughly first? Or maybe not...
OP or not it’s still a thought-provoking topic.
Well I don't think it's wrong to talk about it but if OP hasn't returned then the thread is just moral grandstanding.
I vote whatever.
I vote whatever.
Yes, let's close it and conclude that me and @Peppermint are right, and everyone who agreed with us.
Well while I’m not particularly proud of my contributions, the amount of disagreement and opposing viewpoints is kind of a reality-check on how complicated the issue is. It may not call for several pages more, but I don’t think it needs to be shuttered.
On the OP being an incel or not:
The OP states that he holds these views towards women based on his observations of his “friends,” seemingly meaning that he doesn’t have the same problem as them. Whether that’s true, whether he’s celibate or not, at the very least he is an incel sympathizer.
On incel philosophy based on hating women: I was reading an interview with a former incel member who says that these guys just feel entitled to sex with attractive women, which they don’t say outright. Instead, attractive women are resented for not sleeping with them and unattractive women are sneered at for sleeping with them. So, it is hate towards women. There is no scenario where women are loved, or where male-female relations means more than just sex.
It’s sad because I think most of us, and the former incel member that was interviewed, recognizes that this kind of thinking keeps these men from what they need most, which is self-acceptance and to let go of entitlements.
The OP states that he holds these views towards women based on his observations of his “friends,” seemingly meaning that he doesn’t have the same problem as them. Whether that’s true, whether he’s celibate or not, at the very least he is an incel sympathizer.
On incel philosophy based on hating women: I was reading an interview with a former incel member who says that these guys just feel entitled to sex with attractive women, which they don’t say outright. Instead, attractive women are resented for not sleeping with them and unattractive women are sneered at for sleeping with them. So, it is hate towards women. There is no scenario where women are loved, or where male-female relations means more than just sex.
It’s sad because I think most of us, and the former incel member that was interviewed, recognizes that this kind of thinking keeps these men from what they need most, which is self-acceptance and to let go of entitlements.
Was incel sympathizer too inflammatory? Should I say incel-like? 90% incel / 10% wool? Maybe-not-exactly-incel-but-close-to-incel? A non-celibate involuntary celibate?
You making a joke about the exact consistency of incel is avoidant of the fact you associated him with incels
I don’t avoid that I associate the OP with incels. The OP states that his views are the same as incel views and that his sympathies are with his incel friends. Why would I think otherwise?
He didn't say anything about incels. I have zero tolerance for blatant lies in an argument. Go fuck yourself
So, using the name Chad and repeating the same views as incels is all just a coincidence? Maybe re-read his initial post and those of the incel community before accusing me of lying and telling me to fuck off. I’m surprised by your reaction.
This is a contentious topic worthy of discussion. But let's all try to do so in a constructive manner.
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