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judicial watch used a freedom of information request to get hold of documents that show that soros is funding groups like the open borders group Pueblo Sin Fronteras who have helped organise the caravan

Stop being so racist.
 
Not for unskilled labor.
Sorry...wrong.

its mostly unskilled labour that will be worse affected

then more people will be made unemployed and those people will have to fall back on the welfare state which will then require that taxpayers have to pay higher taxes or that the government will have to borrow more which will increase the national debt so that taxpayers will have to pay more the following years to service the interest on the loans
 
its mostly unskilled labour that will be worse affected

then more people will be made unemployed and those people will have to fall back on the welfare state which will then require that taxpayers have to pay higher taxes or that the government will have to borrow more which will increase the national debt so that taxpayers will have to pay more the following years to service the interest on the loans

No...that really isn’t true.

http://fortune.com/2017/09/08/trump-undocumented-immigrants-daca/
 
Time to go...my Son’s Bday!
Adios!
 
so in the 2016 election clinton said she would give citizenship to any illegal immigrants in the US

A recent Yale study has found that the number of illegal immigrants in the US is likely DOUBLE the previously thought 11 million and is likely to be 22 million

Its also known that first generation immigrants tend to vote for the democrats so what is going on here is the use of demographic shifts by the democrats to try and grab control of the US forever

Soros is funding the caravan to assist this process

The question is: what would the democrats do if they had power in the US indefinately? I suggest it would be the end of the US as a country and it would turn into a third world country pretty quick with all the usual social problems. then you'd have caravans of ex US citizens marching north to canada to escape the social problems in what used to be the US

Groups that would fancy their chances at grabbing control of the reins of power in the new US could include mexican nationalists after all 'democracy' is rule by the majority so no one wants to be the minority because then they become politically vulnerable to the whims of whatever group is in control
there was actually one true statement in there,https://insights.som.yale.edu/insig...undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates (I guess two, there seems to be a democratic lean for the children of immigrants, but I do personally know quite a few trumpsters among that group) Here in the US the political minority has institutional protections, that's why the GOP has twice in recent memory held power while the popular vote as gone against them. And how could it be politically advantageous for the Left to fund a large group of migrants to travel across mexico during a national election? Seems if anyone is advantaged it is Trump. And are you aware that the killings of Jews in PA was done by a man specifically because he believed this Soro's funding claim? If so, even if you really believe it why would you harp on it while those innocents are still being buried?
 
there was actually one true statement in there,https://insights.som.yale.edu/insig...undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates (I guess two, there seems to be a democratic lean for the children of immigrants, but I do personally know quite a few trumpsters among that group) Here in the US the political minority has institutional protections, that's why the GOP has twice in recent memory held power while the popular vote as gone against them. And how could it be politically advantageous for the Left to fund a large group of migrants to travel across mexico during a national election? Seems if anyone is advantaged it is Trump. And are you aware that the killings of Jews in PA was done by a man specifically because he believed this Soro's funding claim? If so, even if you really believe it why would you harp on it while those innocents are still being buried?

ok a couple of points there...

first of all crocodile tears can be used as a weapon

so if the deep state didn't want anyone speaking about soros's funding activity all they have to do is carry out a false flag attack that might actually involve killing people or hint at the risk of killing (eg pipebombs in the mail) and then they can tell everyone that they need to stop talking now because there is a chance some lone nut might do something stupid

basically its a way of trying to curb free speech but behind all of this is an ideological struggle so what those people are really saying when they argue that free speech should be curbed is that they don't believe that the public has a right to decide its own fate

so how about it stu?

do you think the public has a right to decide its own fate?

or do you think they should just leave it all upto the elites?

the second point is that george soros is also funding the flood of migrants into europe with the same aim:

Replacement Migration:
Is It a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations?


United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.

Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm
 
Sorry, but Trump has been using immigration as his number one political rallying cry from day one of his run for president. Why would any one who has the means to fund events to counter him give him such a gift...it really makes no sense.

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Sorry, but Trump has been using immigration as his number one political rallying cry from day one of his run for president. Why would any one who has the means to fund events to counter him give him such a gift...it really makes no sense.

because if the caravan can get into the US then you have new babies born and you have people who may be turned into democrat voters

however i think that the people who pull trumps strings do also pull soros's strings if you go high up enough

yes trump might be appearing tough on immigration which might seem counter to the NWO programme to create a world government by destroying nation states but he is certainly pursuing other things that are not counter to the over-scheme for example the appointment of so many goldman sachs guys

i think that whole Q anon thing is nonsense because it tells people 'don't worry, sit back and do nothing cos we've got this. just trust the plan'

but if they really had it then why is the 5G control grid still going up across the country?

smoke and mirrors
 
because if the caravan can get into the US then you have new babies born and you have people who may be turned into democrat voters
UM....the midterms are next week, it plays into trumps hand to fund such a caravan now. try to stick to the point.
 
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on second thought, don't bother. This NWO 5g crap is just signs of mental illness. I really don't want to egg you on.
 
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Not voting this year

Going to wait for the Democratic party to collapse and reform itself, hopefully it'll happen after this election- if not then I'll have to wait for them to take an L in 2020
it is your right not to vote but you only give those who do vote more power. If you really don't like any of the candidates write in someone also, is there a gerrymandering question on your state ballot? or any other reform minded issue on there you could support? what about funding for education? or just voting against all the judges?
 
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UM....the midterms are next week, it plays into trumps hand to fund such a caravan now. try to stick to the point.

"Organized Busing Operation" Exposed, Moving Migrants Closer To US Border
by Tyler Durden
Wed, 10/31/2018 - 05:11

Traveling at a sluggish pace of 10 miles per day, the migrant caravan probably wouldn't arrive at the nearest US border crossing at McAllen, Texas until February, according to one observer, who debunked claims widely circulated by the media that the caravan would arrive before the Nov. 6 midterm election.

But as it turns out, the organizations that have been aiding the caravan since it first formed in Honduras nearly three weeks ago have already accounted for this. And to help ensure that images of border patrol agents arresting families and separating small children from their parents are flashing across cable news in the days and hours before the polls open, these groups are employing a new tactic: Busing.

That's right. As Fox News report on Tuesday showed, migrants traveling with the caravan are being loaded on to chartered buses and transported to the next stop on the trail to the US, having refused Mexico's offer of asylum, shelter and jobs should they opt to stay in the country. Fox News reporter Griff Jenkins revealed that multiple professional buses have lined up to board the migrants, as footage from the report showed.


As more than 5,000 troops mass on the border and a second caravan crosses into Mexico from Guatemala, Jenkins exposed more than 11 buses carrying some of the migrants organized in the state of Oaxaca. While the buses can't carry every member of the caravan - that would require more than 80 buses, by Fox's count, they can speed members closer to their next stop. Meanwhile, two more caravans in Guatemala and El Salvador.

"Something new that’s developing here," Jenkins said as he wandered the bus loading zone. "We’ve seen the 5,000 strong caravan walking to the border but now they’re waiting for a ride to the border. This is the first time I have seen an organized bus operation from the state of Oaxaca actually getting volunteer buses to put people … on them and take them to their next location."

The buses are just the latest example of the support the migrants have received from local townspeople and organizations from within Mexico, as the country's police and military have largely stood aside despite President Trump's demands that the Mexican government do something to slow or stop the caravan.

That’s very significant now because these towns continue to help them. When we began this way back a week or so – Mexican police were trying to dissuade them from going across the Guatemala-Mexico border. At least some of the towns are assisting them to make their way.

It's unclear who's paying for the buses or when more would be coming (but Jenkins believes more are on their way). However, the motivation behind the campaign should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention since the first caravan formed. Getting the migrants to the border, where Trump's beefed-up border presence is waiting, is clearly a key component of the Democrats' election strategy (and has taken on increased importance since the Democrats attempts to make the vote about health care have largely foundered). Their logic probably looks something like this. Step 1. Get the migrants to the border in the days before the vote. Step 2. Replay the outrage blitz that followed Trump's order to separate migrant children from their families earlier this year. Step 3. Convince moderates that they would be committing an inhumane act by supporting Republicans. Step 4. (hopefully) victory.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ng-operation-moving-migrants-closer-us-border
 
lets zoom into that last paragraph:

It's unclear who's paying for the buses or when more would be coming (but Jenkins believes more are on their way). However, the motivation behind the campaign should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention since the first caravan formed. Getting the migrants to the border, where Trump's beefed-up border presence is waiting, is clearly a key component of the Democrats' election strategy (and has taken on increased importance since the Democrats attempts to make the vote about health care have largely foundered). Their logic probably looks something like this.

Step 1. Get the migrants to the border in the days before the vote.
Step 2. Replay the outrage blitz that followed Trump's order to separate migrant children from their families earlier this year.
Step 3. Convince moderates that they would be committing an inhumane act by supporting Republicans. Step 4. (hopefully) victory.
 
on second thought, don't bother. This NWO 5g crap is just signs of mental illness. I really don't want to egg you on.

so tell me that you are at least aware of the 'internet of things' that the ex head of the CIA general petreus spoke about?

right....you are aware of that much right? well 5G is needed to handle the extra traffic of the internet of things

CIA Chief: We'll Spy on You Through Your Dishwasher
  • Author: Spencer Ackerman
  • 03.15.12
  • 05:35 pm
More and more personal and household devices are connecting to the internet, from your television to your car navigation systems to your light switches. CIA Director David Petraeus cannot wait to spy on you through them.

Earlier this month, Petraeus mused about the emergence of an "Internet of Things" – that is, wired devices – at a summit for In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital firm. "'Transformational' is an overused word, but I do believe it properly applies to these technologies," Petraeus enthused, "particularly to their effect on clandestine tradecraft."

All those new online devices are a treasure trove of data if you're a "person of interest" to the spy community. Once upon a time, spies had to place a bug in your chandelier to hear your conversation. With the rise of the "smart home," you'd be sending tagged, geolocated data that a spy agency can intercept in real time when you use the lighting app on your phone to adjust your living room's ambiance.

"Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters – all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing," Petraeus said, "the latter now going to cloud computing, in many areas greater and greater supercomputing, and, ultimately, heading to quantum computing."

Petraeus allowed that these household spy devices "change our notions of secrecy" and prompt a rethink of "our notions of identity and secrecy." All of which is true – if convenient for a CIA director.

The CIA has a lot of legal restrictions against spying on American citizens. But collecting ambient geolocation data from devices is a grayer area, especially after the 2008 carve-outs to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Hardware manufacturers, it turns out, store a trove of geolocation data; and some legislators have grown alarmed at how easy it is for the government to track you through your phone or PlayStation.

That's not the only data exploit intriguing Petraeus. He's interested in creating new online identities for his undercover spies – and sweeping away the "digital footprints" of agents who suddenly need to vanish.

"Proud parents document the arrival and growth of their future CIA officer in all forms of social media that the world can access for decades to come," Petraeus observed. "Moreover, we have to figure out how to create the digital footprint for new identities for some officers."

It's hard to argue with that. Online cache is not a spy's friend. But Petraeus has an inadvertent pal in Facebook.

Why? With the arrival of Timeline, Facebook made it super-easy to backdate your online history. Barack Obama, for instance, hasn't been on Facebook since his birth in 1961. Creating new identities for CIA non-official cover operatives has arguably never been easier. Thank Zuck, spies. Thank Zuck.
https://www.wired.com/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/