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The End of America

What will lead to the end of America?

  • Fossil fuels run out

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Economy collapses

    Votes: 14 38.9%
  • Water shortages and pollution

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Drug resistant microbes

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Revolt of artificial intelligence

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Global climate change

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 12 33.3%

  • Total voters
    36

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Great empires rise and fall and America will likely be no exception. Since INFJs are suppose to be the
 
Ultimately, our demise will most likely be from economic factors. The other options in the poll just won't happen as fast as our economy could collapse. I see our current situation much like 1984 where there is three classes of people high, middle and low. The high owns so much wealth and power that it is influencing our government with their wealth by trying to get things set in their favor. The day the middle rises, there may be a new face for the nation but the people will still be the same.
 
I read that book! And saw the documentary. I actually thought that's what this thread was going to be about...well, it indirectly is. Same topic.

There are so many ways it could fall. Revolution, civil war, depression... Who knows when or what will happen. All I know is that nothing lasts forever and the expiration date on America's reign is approaching.
 
America remains extremely wealthy. There is no set expiration date. Things can change quickly, but they can also continue in much the same way for a long, long time.
 
how can we appeal to our fellow humans when they are so helplessly devoted to this system?

people are hardly ready to give up their indulgent life styles

they dont even realize how spoiled they are

if we can help raise awareness, we will be doing good work

this is why i want to see a wikigov site
hopefully it would get people thinking again

why should millions of us place all the power in the hands of a few people

mass madness
dark ages

the end could come about from financial collapse, a complete loss of trust in the system

perhaps a few more natural disasters, some intense solar storms, a few acts of terrorism, an epidemic,

so many ways this could come about
 
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We're 'lucky' in a sense that we aren't connected by land to Africa or the Middle East near India.

The growth of population before reaching a maximum capacity is going to create such an incredible demand for goods in these areas (as if they weren't already incredibly high) hordes of hungry and needy would be flooding our country.

If we don't find a way to share the resources demanded our immense consumerism (resources that generally are found over seas) we'll probably lose access to many of them, and then decline into a rather unimportant country on the global scale.
 
if a house collapses but is rebuilt with the same bricks, is it still the same house?
 
China will happen to America
 
China will happen to America

Yeah definately.

The government should never have listened to the bankers and allowed the creation of a fiat currency.

The bankers have taken over control. Unlike manufacturing though banking doesn't actually contribute anything to the real economy of production and consumption, it only extracts interest from the economy.

Banking works by getting people in debt to it and then charging them interest. That is what the global bankers have done....they now have individuals and whole countries in debt to them.

We need to destroy global tax havens so the rich have no where to run with their wealth and then tax them until their heads spin!

Or better still embrace socialism and do away with money, the markets and governments all together. As more countries get sucked into the socialist movement especially nuclear countries the need for nuclear weapons would decline leading eventually to the possibility of destroying nuclear weapons altogether. The recognition of the need to apply equal respect to every human life on the planet can flower and resources can be allocated according to needs.

The US is trying to get China to appreciate its currency but that would lead to a decline in the dollar. it does seem like the dollars had its day.

So did the private bankers in the central banks know what they were doing when they scrapped the gold mark and started printing more money....surely they could foresee all this. If so then why did they do it....whats the game plan?

Looking at past empires they all seem to have overstretched themselves and then had to recede....i think the US is no different.

despite what some British people say about the british empire being a good influence on the world or about it going quietly....thats just BS. It didn't go quietly it went with two world wars!

It also hacked up territories under its control with little thought to local sensitivities eg the drawing of the borders of Israel which is still having effects today. Zionist bankers such as the Rothschilds played a big part in that process.

Also there was the partition of India which lead to the deaths of a million people both Hindus and Muslims due to violence and displacement.

Also anyone who thinks that by invading a country they are doing them a favour is just ignorant.

Will the decline of the dollar hit hardworking americans....YES. Thats the clever thing that the bankers and the corrupt politicians have managed to do. they make all the profit whilst putting all the risk onto the taxpayer. They get the wealth, the taxpayer gets the debt....that's how this works. We pay for their wars, we bailout their failures, we foot the bill for the cost of a failing economy.....they make off like bandits with all the public wealth

NEOLIBERALISM

Solution: get rid of the bankers!!!! (or socialism!)
 
^ That would have been more engaging if you ended with "Workers of the world, unite!". Nice read though, I can tell you are well-informed.
 
^ That would have been more engaging if you ended with "Workers of the world, unite!". Nice read though, I can tell you are well-informed.

Oh alright then.....WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
 
I was gonna write, "the liberals" but It would start a fight lol
 
where's the all of the above option? it's going to take a combination of problems to bring down a country. it won't be just one thing. if it were just one thing, we might be able to put a band-aid on it for just a little while longer.
 
Yeah definately.

The government should never have listened to the bankers and allowed the creation of a fiat currency.

The bankers have taken over control. Unlike manufacturing though banking doesn't actually contribute anything to the real economy of production and consumption, it only extracts interest from the economy.

Banking works by getting people in debt to it and then charging them interest. That is what the global bankers have done....they now have individuals and whole countries in debt to them.

We need to destroy global tax havens so the rich have no where to run with their wealth and then tax them until their heads spin!

Or better still embrace socialism and do away with money, the markets and governments all together. As more countries get sucked into the socialist movement especially nuclear countries the need for nuclear weapons would decline leading eventually to the possibility of destroying nuclear weapons altogether. The recognition of the need to apply equal respect to every human life on the planet can flower and resources can be allocated according to needs.

The US is trying to get China to appreciate its currency but that would lead to a decline in the dollar. it does seem like the dollars had its day.

So did the private bankers in the central banks know what they were doing when they scrapped the gold mark and started printing more money....surely they could foresee all this. If so then why did they do it....whats the game plan?

Looking at past empires they all seem to have overstretched themselves and then had to recede....i think the US is no different.

despite what some British people say about the british empire being a good influence on the world or about it going quietly....thats just BS. It didn't go quietly it went with two world wars!

It also hacked up territories under its control with little thought to local sensitivities eg the drawing of the borders of Israel which is still having effects today. Zionist bankers such as the Rothschilds played a big part in that process.

Also there was the partition of India which lead to the deaths of a million people both Hindus and Muslims due to violence and displacement.

Also anyone who thinks that by invading a country they are doing them a favour is just ignorant.

Will the decline of the dollar hit hardworking americans....YES. Thats the clever thing that the bankers and the corrupt politicians have managed to do. they make all the profit whilst putting all the risk onto the taxpayer. They get the wealth, the taxpayer gets the debt....that's how this works. We pay for their wars, we bailout their failures, we foot the bill for the cost of a failing economy.....they make off like bandits with all the public wealth

NEOLIBERALISM

Solution: get rid of the bankers!!!! (or socialism!)

Or failing that attempt, join them :p
 
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I foresee a combination of economic and revolutionary extremes causing the collapse.

Our economy has been going downwards for a long time. We have no marketable skills, except war.
 
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