Should the Pope face prosectution?
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The solution to this issue is not prosecution (please fix title) anyway. But the church environment indeed seems to stimulate such acts, so the church must go asap. I don't mean religion in general, but the church institution. Religion would take more time and is up to personal decision.
I think the Church needs an upgrade. Get rid of the celibacy and the 12th century attitudes about birth control for starters, amongst a handful other other, minor details...
As for the scandals, launching a full throttle investigation into the perpetrators is a MUST; make them face criminal justice, showing zero tolerance.
As for the scandals, launching a full throttle investigation into the perpetrators is a MUST; make them face criminal justice, showing zero tolerance.
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feth yeah!
should bring back the inquisition too
except their job would be internal. that would be cool
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yes i think so,
bolded a part in this article, that should answer that
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7094310.ece
if this actually happens the respect for my countries legal system would definitely go up somewhat.
bolded a part in this article, that should answer that
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7094310.ece
if this actually happens the respect for my countries legal system would definitely go up somewhat.
Celibacy will likely stay in place and I doubt the Pope will be prosecuted (or whatever). I fact, the only changes I can coming of all this (short term) is a different rangement between the Church and civil authorities and probably (I hope) a lessening of the preoccupation with clerical dominance. Officially the Church has been articulating this (and pushing for this) for decades but from what I can tell the people themselves (and local leaders in some cases) need to seriously develop some new skills.
I was just reading this before I read this thread.
http://www.takimag.com/article/anti-catholicism_and_the_new_york_times/
http://www.takimag.com/article/anti-catholicism_and_the_new_york_times/
I'm going to re frame from posting anymore than this. Because honestly I would be glad to to RCC go away along with the rest of religion. And see humanity stand on its own to feet and actually be accountable for its actions. So I'll just sit this one out....
How does that improve the situation? Do you know that many criminals have learned their inclination, exactly because of such judgmental attitude imposed on them?
The church will die, given time. I mean...the nice thing about the Catholic church having it's own country is that it allows them to do some really fantastically illegal things and get straight away with it.
Can you think what would happen if someone like...oh, here's a straightforward example...the head of Nestle or Exxon were the head of a country who couldn't be prosecuted? He'd be a right proper asshole. The Catholic Church learned this trick a long time ago and it's a doozy.
Can you think what would happen if someone like...oh, here's a straightforward example...the head of Nestle or Exxon were the head of a country who couldn't be prosecuted? He'd be a right proper asshole. The Catholic Church learned this trick a long time ago and it's a doozy.
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... Follow through on the UNs arrest warrant for Kissenger to be tried and executed as a war criminal first.
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It's simple. If the pope is causing an obstruction of justice, then he needs to be prosecuted. Just because someone is of high authority does not free them of such a charge.
I am in no position to make a judgement call on this situation because I don't know the details of the story enough. However, from what I have gathered it seems like the pope is trying to block or cover up the actions of people below him. If that is the case, and the others are found guilty, he needs to be charged.
I am in no position to make a judgement call on this situation because I don't know the details of the story enough. However, from what I have gathered it seems like the pope is trying to block or cover up the actions of people below him. If that is the case, and the others are found guilty, he needs to be charged.
Isn't that sort of the whole problem. I don't think it reasonable to say "Well a lot of people are involved so...let's just forget about it and give them a verbal spanking"
I'm conflicted about that issue, I've gotten into many arguments over it (I was a Episcopalian/baptist at a point in time and the others people generally being catholic) I know you're not supposed to endorse something like sex which is prohibited until marriage but I think it's ignorant to tell a whole country to basically "Go fuck yourselves literally" and curse a whole continent with death.
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Er, antisemitism can and has occurred without concentration camps and a Nazi regime. Historically, Jews were persecuted long before Hitler came around; often with newspapers and articles citing the evils of their deeds and providing arguments against their religion and their traditions (and how those traditions made them a lesser race/evil/money grubbing/stupid/beneath everyone etc.). In which case, the comparison isn't entirely out of the ball park.
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If they had been that specific, I would bite, but they cited anti-semetism in general. What is the worst atrocity that Catholics have ever faced? Was it anywhere near that which the Jews faced during the Holocaust?
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