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    Hey everyone...trying to get back to you all...it may take me an extra day or two this week to catch up!
    I will leave you with this until then...
    :<3white:



    "Feeling anger, it is easy to conclude that you are angry.
    The problem with this conclusion is that it can go beyond a mere descriptive statement.
    It can become a policy statement, or a basic plank in the platform of your sense of who you are.
    This, in turn, means that you come to see the moods as 'all in your head,'
    a function of your own nature, thus devaluing them.
    From an esoteric point of view, moods are the manifestation of energies,
    and can transcend the merely personal in the same
    way that the
    abstract structures of mathematics transcend the minds that perceive them."


    ~ John Micheal Greer, Clare Vaughn, and Earl King Jr.

    Learning Ritual Magic



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    Hello my soul brother. :hug:
    I don't understand the image with people holding the golden globes....but it makes me smile.
    I totally grokked Thanos in fullness once I saw him in action in the Avengers. Yep yep yep. I used to have a huge full blown fantasy where I was Goddess of the world mimicking his actions and I gleefully eradicated people all over the planet. Thankfully I got over myself and let those ideas go. Heh.
    Much love to you! :<3purple:
     
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    Thanks Kgal!!
    Having a bit of trouble with my energy levels being stuck in the "lethargy" setting lmao. ;)
    It's such a rollercoaster of feeling up and down physically, it gets a bit old.
    Anyhow...yes, isn't that a beautiful painting of them hanging lanterns!
    The artist is Maxfield Parish - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxfield_Parrish

    Here's another by him...

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    Nice, lol...yes, I've had similar ideas and fantasies...but I too have let them go as you will always end up with situations like the one created by killing this Iranian General...people are being careless with the lives of others for their own political gamesmanship...and innocents always suffer the most.
    But yes...it would be nice to have some kind of rocket launcher on my car...hehehe.

    Get back to you in PM land soon!
    Lots of love!
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    Excerpts from current reading material "Real Magic" by Dean Radin, PhD


    "Theists of most traditional faiths avoid expressing public interest in magic.
    But many religious people wear a symbol of their faith -
    a cross, a talisman, a protection amulet given by a guru -
    and the symbol is not just a public pronouncement of faith but also a form of sympathetic magic
    (a transcendent symbolic connection to a guru or deity.)"

    "But religious faith also requires an unwavering belief in magic, so certain forms of magic are acceptable.
    Catholic priests are sanctioned to perform the sacrament of the Eucharist,
    an explicitly magical transformation of bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ."
     
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    Hahahahaha! I'm glad you couldn't afford a car with a built in rocket launcher! Heh.
    ...and yes....killing people only makes more hatred and need for revenge.
    Thank you for the art. I like this one too! I'll check out the artist page.

    As for lethargy I too am feeling it today more than I have in a while. Feels like I'm only getting half the voltage I need to run. The collective made a timeline jump and we're feeling the effects. Did you see the Avengers where Dr. Strange goes through many timelines to see the only one where Thanos is defeated? Picture your body going through that only it lasts for about 72 hours.
    May you have ease.
     
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    Oh jeez...here we go...
    Amazing really...though not sure this is such a good idea.
    Thoughts?
    Enjoy!



    Team builds the first living robots
    JANUARY 13, 2020
    by University of Vermont


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    Robotics expert Joshua Bongard, a computer scientist at the University of Vermont,
    co-led new research that led to the creation of a new class of artifact: a living, programmable organism a called xenobot.

    A book is made of wood.
    But it is not a tree.

    The dead cells have been repurposed to serve another need.

    Now a team of scientists has repurposed living cells—scraped from frog embryos—and assembled them into entirely new life-forms.
    These millimeter-wide "xenobots" can move toward a target, perhaps pick up a payload (like a medicine that needs to be carried to a specific place inside a patient)—and heal themselves after being cut.

    "These are novel living machines," says Joshua Bongard, a computer scientist and robotics expert at the University of Vermont who co-led the new research. "They're neither a traditional robot nor a known species of animal. It's a new class of artifact: a living, programmable organism."

    The new creatures were designed on a supercomputer at UVM—and then assembled and tested by biologists at Tufts University.
    "We can imagine many useful applications of these living robots that other machines can't do," says co-leader Michael Levin who directs the Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology at Tufts, "like searching out nasty compounds or radioactive contamination, gathering microplastic in the oceans, traveling in arteries to scrape out plaque."

    The results of the new research were published January 13 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    Bespoke living systems

    People have been manipulating organisms for human benefit since at least the dawn of agriculture, genetic editing is becoming widespread, and a few artificial organisms have been manually assembled in the past few years—copying the body forms of known animals.

    But this research, for the first time ever, "designs completely biological machines from the ground up," the team writes in their new study.

    With months of processing time on the Deep Green supercomputer cluster at UVM's Vermont Advanced Computing Core, the team—including lead author and doctoral student Sam Kriegman—used an evolutionary algorithm to create thousands of candidate designs for the new life-forms.

    Attempting to achieve a task assigned by the scientists—like locomotion in one direction—the computer would, over and over, reassemble a few hundred simulated cells into myriad forms and body shapes.

    As the programs ran—driven by basic rules about the biophysics of what single frog skin and cardiac cells can do—the more successful simulated organisms were kept and refined, while failed designs were tossed out.

    After a hundred independent runs of the algorithm, the most promising designs were selected for testing.

    Then the team at Tufts, led by Levin and with key work by microsurgeon Douglas Blackiston—transferred the in silico designs into life.
    First they gathered stem cells, harvested from the embryos of African frogs, the species Xenopus laevis. (Hence the name "xenobots.")

    These were separated into single cells and left to incubate.
    Then, using tiny forceps and an even tinier electrode, the cells were cut and joined under a microscope into a close approximation of the designs specified by the computer.

    Assembled into body forms never seen in nature, the cells began to work together.
    The skin cells formed a more passive architecture, while the once-random contractions of heart muscle cells were put to work creating ordered forward motion as guided by the computer's design, and aided by spontaneous self-organizing patterns—allowing the robots to move on their own.

    These reconfigurable organisms were shown to be able move in a coherent fashion—and explore their watery environment for days or weeks, powered by embryonic energy stores.

    Turned over, however, they failed, like beetles flipped on their backs.

    Later tests showed that groups of xenobots would move around in circles, pushing pellets into a central location—spontaneously and collectively.
    Others were built with a hole through the center to reduce drag.

    In simulated versions of these, the scientists were able to repurpose this hole as a pouch to successfully carry an object.
    "It's a step toward using computer-designed organisms for intelligent drug delivery," says Bongard, a professor in UVM's Department of Computer Science and Complex Systems Center.

    Living technologies

    Many technologies are made of steel, concrete or plastic.
    That can make them strong or flexible.

    But they also can create ecological and human health problems, like the growing scourge of plastic pollution in the oceans and the toxicity of many synthetic materials and electronics.

    "The downside of living tissue is that it's weak and it degrades," say Bongard. "That's why we use steel. But organisms have 4.5 billion years of practice at regenerating themselves and going on for decades." And when they stop working—death—they usually fall apart harmlessly. "These xenobots are fully biodegradable," say Bongard, "when they're done with their job after seven days, they're just dead skin cells."

    Your laptop is a powerful technology.
    But try cutting it in half.

    Doesn't work so well.
    In the new experiments, the scientists cut the xenobots and watched what happened.
    "We sliced the robot almost in half and it stitches itself back up and keeps going," says Bongard. "And this is something you can't do with typical machines."

    Cracking the code

    Both Levin and Bongard say the potential of what they've been learning about how cells communicate and connect extends deep into both computational science and our understanding of life.

    "The big question in biology is to understand the algorithms that determine form and function," says Levin. "The genome encodes proteins, but transformative applications await our discovery of how that hardware enables cells to cooperate toward making functional anatomies under very different conditions."

    To make an organism develop and function, there is a lot of information sharing and cooperation—organic computation—going on in and between cells all the time, not just within neurons.

    These emergent and geometric properties are shaped by bioelectric, biochemical, and biomechanical processes, "that run on DNA-specified hardware," Levin says, "and these processes are reconfigurable, enabling novel living forms."

    The scientists see the work presented in their new PNAS study—"A scalable pipeline for designing reconfigurable organisms,"—as one step in applying insights about this bioelectric code to both biology and computer science.

    "What actually determines the anatomy towards which cells cooperate?" Levin asks. "You look at the cells we've been building our xenobots with, and, genomically, they're frogs. It's 100% frog DNA—but these are not frogs. Then you ask, well, what else are these cells capable of building?"

    "As we've shown, these frog cells can be coaxed to make interesting living forms that are completely different from what their default anatomy would be," says Levin.

    He and the other scientists in the UVM and Tufts team—with support from DARPA's Lifelong Learning Machines program and the National Science Foundation— believe that building the xenobots is a small step toward cracking what he calls the "morphogenetic code," providing a deeper view of the overall way organisms are organized—and how they compute and store information based on their histories and environment.

    Future shocks

    Many people worry about the implications of rapid technological change and complex biological manipulations.
    "That fear is not unreasonable," Levin says. "When we start to mess around with complex systems that we don't understand, we're going to get unintended consequences."

    A lot of complex systems, like an ant colony, begin with a simple unit—an ant—from which it would be impossible to predict the shape of their colony or how they can build bridges over water with their interlinked bodies.

    "If humanity is going to survive into the future, we need to better understand how complex properties, somehow, emerge from simple rules," says Levin. Much of science is focused on "controlling the low-level rules. We also need to understand the high-level rules," he says. "If you wanted an anthill with two chimneys instead of one, how do you modify the ants? We'd have no idea."

    "I think it's an absolute necessity for society going forward to get a better handle on systems where the outcome is very complex," Levin says. "A first step towards doing that is to explore: how do living systems decide what an overall behavior should be and how do we manipulate the pieces to get the behaviors we want?"

    In other words, "this study is a direct contribution to getting a handle on what people are afraid of, which is unintended consequences," Levin says—whether in the rapid arrival of self-driving cars, changing gene drives to wipe out whole lineages of viruses, or the many other complex and autonomous systems that will increasingly shape the human experience.

    "There's all of this innate creativity in life," says UVM's Josh Bongard.
    "We want to understand that more deeply—and how we can direct and push it toward new forms."




    (There are two videos that accompany this article that I could not link on this page, please go here to view.)
    https://techxplore.com/news/2020-01-team-robots.html




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    Thank you Kgal!!
    The same to you in return!
    We are teetering on the cusp of snow here and it's doing painful things to my back lol.
    I'm hanging in there though as always. :)

    I hope you are feeling well too...sending you my love.
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    Some great articles Skare :)

    Interesting concept :D - I wonder what the abnormal ones are like :screamcat::screamcat::sunglasses::screamcat:

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    I wonder if this image is using some of the symbolism of Rumi's Mevlevi order - the whirling dervishes. The figure on the right is holding her hands in exactly the right way, bringing down blessings from heaven with the right hand and spreading them down to the earth with the left. The globes could be a symbol of this blessing, they are like captured sunlight. There is a hint of the Dervish's robes in the clothes they are wearing.

     
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    @John K - I fully endorse you trying this!!!! :grin:
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    I want to once again congratulate my cousin Steven Morrow on his Oscar nomination for 'Ford v Ferrari' sound mixing!
    He has previously been snubbed for 'A Star is Born' and before that 'La La Land'...fingers crossed he wins it this time!!



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    Now that's worth having a go at [​IMG]. I suspect a few beers and a load of practice is a prerequisite .....

    Unless this is a vast wormhole that opened up just as the photographer pressed their shutter 150 million years in the future and a billion light years away then sucked him all the way to us. Poor bastard .... :p

    It's an amazing photo !
     
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    Lol!
    Well if you do try...please get your wife to film you as you practice rolling down the hill!! :laughing:
    I suspect if anyone could open up a wormhole like that it would be you John hahaha!
    Take care!
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    You're welcome my friend, it had been too long since I'd visited this beautiful place.

    Fine masterpiece indeed :p

     
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    Seconded - very much so ......

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    Rad picture!
    Thanks you two...I hope you both are having a nice start to 2020!
    May you both have a peaceful day/evening!
    :<3white:

    John - I like your connection you made with the whirling dervishes...I can definitely see how you could find such a similarity, thanks for the video. :)
    Here's what I pulled off the web about it...

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