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    I was always confused over whether I was a intj or a infj and I took a break from both sites(intj and infj forum) to find my answer. Months later, I'm still in my rut. I have tested as an intj, intp, istj, and a infj but I tend to take intj and infj more seriously than the other results. I don't really understand myself and I have been going through a lot of chances but I still don't understand how I am having so much trouble choosing between the two.

    The main problem comes from the test, which I think has way too many false dichotomys , your either an F and purely emotinoal all the time, or a T who is completely logical all the time. I really think this is a waste of space, but I need help for self-improvement, how can I figure out if I'm more of an intj or an intj (or w/e my type may be)

    (probably some grammatical mistakes, i'm on the go, sorry)
     
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    perhaps you are on the cusp...perhaps you are all of those things...Equally balanced, thats why you cant get a good idea on what you are...
     
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    Hi

    Someone posted this here a couple of weeks ago. It's a little video about an INFJ woman and her INTJ husband. It will help you see the difference between the two types:

    http://www.infj.com/INFJorINTJ.htm
     
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    The vid is pretty long so I didn't watch it all but I read what was written and it was a good explanation of the differences between the two. I think I am predominantly INTJ, although I sometimes test as INFJ. However, although MBTI is a good model for understanding personality, it is just that, only a model. No model can perfectly encapsulate someone. (A similar point is made in the link). Also for example in the linked content the author states that the INFJ is first diplomatic then strategic whereas the INTJ is first strategic then diplomatic. However, because everyone is unique, there must be a range of people who are more or less evenly matched between diplomacy and strategy.
     
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    I have watched the video, and I can see qualities and traits of both of the individuals in me; alas that did not help much. I don't seem very intjish (judging by my interactions w/ intjs on the intj forum) but according to this forum, I don't seem very infjish either.
     
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    hi Reon

    i have the same story

    what about this part? is it easier to choose one over the other?

     
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    Here's another...

    NF versus NT

     
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    What you need to do to determine your type is not focus on whether you're F or T but instead find out whether or not you are Fe and Ti (INFJ) or Te and Fi (INTJ). Find out how those specific functions manifest and observe them in yourself, and it should be easy to tell whether you are INFJ or INTJ.
     
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    In the end, it doesn't matter too much, you're still you =)
     
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    Of course it does! INFJ's are cooler! :m052:




    (I'm only joking, of course.)
     
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    This is how I decided my identity crisis the first time, I just assumed I was an infj and had a strong Ti.

    addendum: I just took a cognitive test, I was told that I was an intp based on the fact that Ti was my highest score, followed by Fe, Te, Ne, Fi,Si, Ni, and Se. Isn't that a bit odd for me to be either intp, intj, or infj
     
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    I have the same problem, I score INXX all the time, the test is still being perfected so it can be quite challenging for people to figure out their type, specially if your cognitive functions are borderline. I suggest you keep investigating, talk to people of these to see how they communicate, forums like this help us understand each other better and how are we related/different in our core beliefs. It really is ok to classify yourself as a INXX or whatever you want to. Think about how you mood affects your result.
     
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    I don't know about odd. INFJs have relatively strong Ti. It isn't like INTP Ti, but it is still our 3rd function.

    Anyway, I don't know that tests can help you at this point. They usually aren't that great anyway. I recommend reading up on the functions if you haven't already and then trying to see which combination's are dominant.

    Two more things.

    1. If you're young, like 16, it might be very hard to determine what you are. The same goes for if you are old because older people tend to be more balanced.

    2. It is also possible that you're just impossible (or extremely difficult) to accurately type. The functions exist in a spectrum, and it is possible to be right in the middle of the spectrum. I have a friend who I have found impossible to type at all. Every single one of her functions is on the edge.

    You may have not taken the time to develop your dominant functions at the expense of your inferior functions (one possibility), and another possibility is that you have taken the time to develop your inferior functions at the expense of your dominant functions (a.k.a. "well balanced"). Neither of these are necessarily good or bad things in the same way that being any type doesn't make you a good or bad person. It is simply your reaction to your environment.

    Can you differentiate between Ti and Ni? Do you know what your dominant function is?
     
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    "Ni’s confidently trust their intuitions, insights, ideas, and inspirations - often no matter what others say. Their thoughts become part of who they are. They don’t need to rely on others, and they enjoy time to themselves. Their strong independence is a good thing, but they also have a natural suspicion about others and need to learn to trust them (INTJ’s in particular)."

    "Ni’s prefer to think things through as completely as possible and dislike it when others come to quick, simplistic conclusions. Ni’s are known to get frustrated with others. INTJ’s are more likely to show this than INFJs, but nonetheless it is there, and often strongly felt."

    Intj: Introverted Intuition, Extroverted Thinking, Introverted feeling and Extroverted Sensing
    Empirical thinking is at the core of extraverted Thinking when we challenge someone’s ideas based on the logic of the facts in front of us or lay out reasonable explanations for decisions or conclusions made, often trying to establish order in someone else’s thought process. In written or verbal communication, extraverted Thinking helps us easily follow someone else’s logic, sequence, or organization. It also helps us notice when something is missing, like when someone says he or she is going to talk about four topics and talks about only three.
    Infj: Introverted Intuition, Extroverted Feeling, Introverted thinking, Extroverted Sensing
    The “social graces,” such as being polite, being nice, being friendly, being considerate, and being appropriate, often revolve around the process of extraverted Feeling. Keeping in touch, laughing at jokes when others laugh, and trying to get people to act kindly to each other also involve extraverted Feeling. Using this process, we respond according to expressed or even unexpressed wants and needs of others. We may ask people what they want or need or self-disclose to prompt them to talk more about themselves. This often sparks conversation and lets us know more about them so we can better adjust our behavior to them.

    Infp: Introverted feeling, Extroverted intuition, Introverted sensing, Extroverted thinking
    Extraverted iNtuiting involves noticing hidden meanings and interpreting them, often entertaining a wealth of possible interpretations from just one idea or interpreting what someone’s behavior really means. It also involves seeing things “as if,” with various possible representations of reality. Using this process, we can juggle many different ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and meanings in our mind at once with the possibility that they are all true.

    The order of this is from the strongest to the weakest skill. - The second is the one to aide you most. - Hope this aides you in some manner.
     
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    Introverted Thinking often involves finding just the right word to clearly express an idea concisely, crisply, and to the point. Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it. It also involves an internal reasoning process of deriving subcategories of classes and sub-principles of general principles. These can then be used in problem solving, analysis, and refining of a product or an idea. This process is evidenced in behaviors like taking things or ideas apart to figure out how they work.

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    I can kind of relate. I've just taken the Myers Briggs personality test and scored an INFJ. My I was only at 1% and my F was at 3%. I think i am an introvert with extroverted features and a thinker with feeling features - if that makes sense. That would make me predominantly INTJ but even then I don't fully relate to the personality type. It's all so confusing.
     
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    INTJ's have always struck me as far more impersonal and direct in their dealings with other people than INFJ's, who are more likely to empathize and compromise. I think it's because INFJ's value social harmony a bit more than INTJ's.
     
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    I have an uncanny ability to detect people's types. You strike me as an INFJ, not INTJ. "Restraint," for all I am concerned is an INTJ. You have an entirely different "feel" than him.

    I vote INFJ. ;)
     
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    Again, using my uncanny abilities... I will say that you are definitely NOT an INTJ. Secondly, I think you might be either an INFJ or INFP. INTP would be my third choice. INTJ is outruled.

    :)
     
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    Restraint is an INTJ? I don't think so. While she's definitely developed her analytical skills, she's Ni>Fe>Ti all the way, methinks.
     
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