Class poll on prejudice
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Shai Gar
No see, That's not against women. That's against more idiotic children bringing MORE life into an overpopulated planet without thoughts as to how they're going to support it. Australia already has too many single mothers who are a drain to the welfare system (thanks in part to john howards plan of giving every pregnant woman $3000). That's not even touching on the fact that by law a guy who had sex with a girl who doesn't want to give up the baby (even though he wants nothing to do with it and has no rights to it) has to give up a VERY substantial part of his paycheck for 18 years to support its parasitic life.
The second part might have sounded anti woman and pro guy... But that's only because you're not familiar with my plan of giving every guy who wants to fuck a girl, they're not in a legally binding relationship with, without a condom, a vasectomy/deballing.
How about the expression "Pro-NotBeingAMoronAndEndingTheConstantContinuationOfChildrenBeingBornOnEarthWithoutTheFundsToSupportThem" or
"Anti-Overpopulationism"
What's to expand my mind upon? I'm booked in for an appointment to get a vasectomy in February. I'm not Anti-Woman, no matter how far you want to twist my words. I'm Anti-Idiocy.
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Something to consider about private charities and gay youth.
From these reports on homeless gay youth.
http://www.365gay.com/opinion/siciliano-lgbt-teen-homelessness-is-an-epidemic/
http://www.thetaskforce.org/reports_and_research/homeless_youth
Many of these kids are from abusive homes and would prefer to be homeless than return to that situation. The state has at least passed a law that allows them to declare emancipation if they are at least 16, but that doesn't help their homeless situation. They also have no social support system and have been ostracized from their communities.
What are you talking about? That is Christian love! Better to save the eternal soul than the body.
It is also becoming a national epidemic.
http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/HomelessYouth.pdf
Less likely in Utah. The parents will tolerate teens to keep them from having abortions.
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You can become a sex worker. Sometimes that is a good way to make some cash for food and shelter.
Yup. And exposed to HIV and other STDs. And don't forget that Utah is an abstinence only education state.
http://gaygenderissues.suite101.com/article.cfm/could_teaching_sex_become_a_crime
Shai, I'll say right up front that your argument made sense to me. I understand it, and sincerely don't have a problem with it.
We live in different cultures, with different laws. There are no laws requiring fathers of children to take financial, emotional or moral responsibility for their "illegitimate" children here. Even if there has been marriage - and divorce - good luck collecting the settlement or engaging the man who impregnated you in the life of your child. Been there. Got pregnant at 19, got married, got divorced at 21. Ex wouldn't pay the $50 freaking dollars a month (which didn't pay half of one week's childcare while I worked) I settled for (not alimony, which I didn't ask for) because then he wouldn't have been able to make his Harley payment. My father never paid the child support he owed my mother, either. Ever. Despite having an Astin Martin while we lived in a crappy apartment that often didn't have heat/hot water in the winter.
There are two sides to that coin.
Cool, you want a vasectomy. I'm ALL FOR responsible parenting, including conscious thoughtful decisions about becoming a parent. I'm pro-birth control, I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-committed, loving parenting. Men who use condoms and get vasectomies are HEROES in my eyes. So are men who acknowledge and care for their children, if not the mothers of those children.
I just freaking HATE to hear all women lumped together as the sinner, the parasite, The One To Blame, regardless of their choice. If they have a choice. It makes my lips curl back to hear any man... any man... dismissively and derisively talk about pregnancy and/or abortion like they could possibly begin to have the shadow of an inkling of a concept of what either entails.
Making assumptions about women who find themselves young, alone and pregnant is cold, shallow, and lacking in imagination and empathy. Not all of them are wellfare sluts.
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We live in different cultures, with different laws. There are no laws requiring fathers of children to take financial, emotional or moral responsibility for their "illegitimate" children here. Even if there has been marriage - and divorce - good luck collecting the settlement or engaging the man who impregnated you in the life of your child. Been there. Got pregnant at 19, got married, got divorced at 21. Ex wouldn't pay the $50 freaking dollars a month (which didn't pay half of one week's childcare while I worked) I settled for (not alimony, which I didn't ask for) because then he wouldn't have been able to make his Harley payment. My father never paid the child support he owed my mother, either. Ever. Despite having an Astin Martin while we lived in a crappy apartment that often didn't have heat/hot water in the winter.
There are two sides to that coin.
Cool, you want a vasectomy. I'm ALL FOR responsible parenting, including conscious thoughtful decisions about becoming a parent. I'm pro-birth control, I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-committed, loving parenting. Men who use condoms and get vasectomies are HEROES in my eyes. So are men who acknowledge and care for their children, if not the mothers of those children.
I just freaking HATE to hear all women lumped together as the sinner, the parasite, The One To Blame, regardless of their choice. If they have a choice. It makes my lips curl back to hear any man... any man... dismissively and derisively talk about pregnancy and/or abortion like they could possibly begin to have the shadow of an inkling of a concept of what either entails.
Making assumptions about women who find themselves young, alone and pregnant is cold, shallow, and lacking in imagination and empathy. Not all of them are wellfare sluts.
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And they are right next door to a state that contains legalized prostitution. Something here doesn't seem quite right...
Eh?
Also, don't miss the chance to read that article. You are libertarian aren't ya? That should be right up your alley.
I've had an LDS guy come and try to convert once, only once thank God. He was weird as hell, like he was some strange parent who was just "there to help me out"... I was just a little scared.
From what I've now heard, I'm now thankful not to be living in Utah.
From what I've now heard, I'm now thankful not to be living in Utah.
Seems right to me, if you have an itch you only got to cross one state line to get it scratched.
Not only does that not seem quite right, but it sounds like one state profiting off another's issues. I hate to be that negative, but damn...Utah is one cold mf'ing state.
Satya, what they're doing in Utah is in no way, no when, no how, and by no means Christian. That's not Jesus; that's pure, unadulterated, state-sanctioned murder.
Correction. It is a "family values" state.
A state that is over 66% Christian and whose government is over 90% Christian. But none of this kind of stuff is new to me. Just what I have been dealing with since I was in junior high and part of what has made me the person I am today.
No grand statement, I'm just saying it seems intuitively silly. It would be much more so if it was in the same state, of course.
I read the article (not as thoroughly as I would like, but I plan to get back to the rest of the articles you've been posting in this and the other thread after the weekend). My initial thought is that it's just yet another case of the government running into internal inconsistency within its own systems.
On that note, I wish there were more people in government with strong Ti.
By profession, that is. "Christian" is a pretty generic term; Both I and an LDS member would fall under it. What arbygil was pointing out was that this is not the sort of thing Jesus would condone.
Since when is Christianity about what Jesus Christ would do?
Come on! You can't ostracize and dehumanize entire groups of people for who they are if you are suppose to love everyone as much as you love yourself! Paul's writings and the Old Testament are much more important than anything Jesus Christ ever taught.
The question should be: since when is Christianity not about what Jesus Christ would do?
And the answer (probably) is: since Jesus died (or was taken to heaven bodily, as you like).
