Ok fine
Used to be farse at some point though.
I don't think farce was the word I was looking for, but my vocabulary is limited.
Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize
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Ok fine
Used to be farse at some point though.
I don't think farce was the word I was looking for, but my vocabulary is limited.
Here's a portion of the first part of the President's acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press...e-President-on-Winning-the-Nobel-Peace-Prize/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press...e-President-on-Winning-the-Nobel-Peace-Prize/
I agree with Obama here. (And I quite like Obama here....wish I could be bothered to follow this stuff more often!)
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That's a very gracious and humble acceptance speech on Obama's part, I must say.
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Eloquent as always.
This has always been the thing that has bothered me about him. He is so eloquent, more so then nearly every other person ever to hold political office, or almost anyone else I have ever met or heard of. He's so eloquent to the point that it seems distrustful and dishonest (it's akin to a "its too real to be real" effect). I don't know whether to believe what he is saying, and take it at face value. Or, if this is just a facade he is putting on to hide how he really is and how he really thinks/feels about something. What he says here is no exception to this for me.
This has always been the thing that has bothered me about him. He is so eloquent, more so then nearly every other person ever to hold political office, or almost anyone else I have ever met or heard of. He's so eloquent to the point that it seems distrustful and dishonest (it's akin to a "its too real to be real" effect). I don't know whether to believe what he is saying, and take it at face value. Or, if this is just a facade he is putting on to hide how he really is and how he really thinks/feels about something. What he says here is no exception to this for me.
I want to like him but I still feel unsure about it.
The man knows how to talk and what the people want to hear..
The man knows how to talk and what the people want to hear..
Politics is based on rhetoric. Would you believe Churchill?
I actually prefer this kind of speech. Although these things are written by Aides and speech writers it makes me feel secure in the idea that someone intelligient is leading. (as opposed to... ;-))
Feel like I'm sticking up for a man I know nothing about here! I'll shut up in a minute! But he has actually pushed ahead on some VERY risky policies when it comes to public opinion. Healthcare good example. Politicians ALWAYS tell you it in a way you'd rather hear it, it's all spin in the end, but he hasn't been afraid to say promise some controversial changes.
Do you think it would be better for the nations if we left immediately? Or are you saying that we should stick around but try different approaches...?
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Shai Gar
I say stick around, but move the army OUT.
Let them know that you're moving civilian contractors in, who'll work alongside native contractors, but the first American civilian to die, means the entire workforce leaves.
Move the army out before moving the contractors in.
That's how you rebuild without pissing them off. Gradually you move the Americans out to be replaced with native contractors, and all the while the US Government pays the Iraqi/Afghan contractors as a part of the reparations.
Hearts and Minds.
Because it's fucking obvious that by the balls means creating more enemies for your children's generation.
Let them know that you're moving civilian contractors in, who'll work alongside native contractors, but the first American civilian to die, means the entire workforce leaves.
Move the army out before moving the contractors in.
That's how you rebuild without pissing them off. Gradually you move the Americans out to be replaced with native contractors, and all the while the US Government pays the Iraqi/Afghan contractors as a part of the reparations.
Hearts and Minds.
Because it's fucking obvious that by the balls means creating more enemies for your children's generation.
That would take about 24 hours.
Extremist groups don't just want American troops out. They want Americans dead, and they want Islamic law to dominate, not some western-friendly democratic government.
He obviously didn't earn the prize because of that decision. He earned it because of other, unrelated decisions and ambitions. I don't think that situation (which he had no part in initiating, and little control over) should affect his candidacy for the prize any more than Woodrow Wilson's involvement in the First World War should have affected his.
You're seeing the mask of an INTP. ;-)
The Norwegian Nobel Committee members are appointed by the Norwegian parliment, and they often choose their own politicians to join the committee. So... yeah, figures.
Still, I am this angry:
I don't think that the reward will give him any more opportunities than being the President of the United States. I think the prize was awarded for political reasons, and if this is true then I don't agree with the decision that was made.
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Shai Gar
Extremist groups want to destroy gog and magog and fortify israel so that jesus can come again and purge the world of the sinners, heathens and fornicators.
the news I discovered in this thread kind of killed my good mood. I feel that the Peace prize should only be awarded to those who have actually done something to attain peace. The key part of that sentence is that its in the PAST tense. it would be better to give it to one posthumously than preemptively.Also, isn't the moon considered the heritage of human kind, meaning it is equally everyone's? what right does NASA have to bomb MY moon? I have no problem with people exploring it, but they can not actively change it, especially in a way that I'd notice. The article said that the new crater would be visible from Earth. I mean, at LEAST bomb the far side of the moon.
