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Am I the only one who hates historicism??

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    *cough* same *cough*

    Well, it depends who.
     
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    Ren Pin's android and co-founder of Stoic Café

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    I have no doubt that once your paper is crafted in its finer details, History & Theory will be dying to publish it.

    They would be fools otherwise.

    I think this solves the thread as far as I'm concerned. ^^
     
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    Story of my life. I once accidentally 'invented' the t-test in highschool. You have this problem too, Host? :D

    Good work. I've only skimmed it, as I don't have any energy or powers of concentration, but from what I've read, you make your reasoning clear and explicit. (So much so even that I wonder if your target audience are sensors :D)

    I hate to break it to you, but yeah, you do. You're even doing it right now. :sweatsmile:
    You have pre-determined models too. They clash with the models these INTPs use, and here we are. :)
     
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    Thanks for the support, Renster, I bloody well hope so :grin::laughing:

    Oh yeah, all the damn time, Lololol. Everytime I find out it's already been discovered, I'm like 'aw fuck...'

    Cheers, LJ - well, that outline was written to be shared with my supervisor, who's very concerned with it's practical historical relevance for method, though he claims to be INFJ...
     
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    This happens all the time with my "original" ideas! Later, I learn some has already articulated my thoughts better than I ever could. I don't even try anymore. None of my ideas or "truths" are original. Only new to me.
     
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    Milktoast Bandit Reality... Sometimes, it's real.

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    Excellent work. I'm unable to read it in depth atm and it's unlikely I'll be able to fully comprehend it anyway, lol. Seems legit though! Good work
     
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    You are probably the only person to ever hate historicism
     
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    [INTJ] WELL, ACTUALLY... Knowledge, knowledge, knowledge[/INTJ]
     
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    [INFJ] Well hold on there partner... random obscure occult reasoning[/INFJ]
     
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    :blush: You made my day.
     
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    What did historicism ever do to you?
     
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    What is the same will tend to repeat, what has changed might not. It is, however, not always obvious when and how things change especially in the subterfuge of the present. Historical knowledge gives a blueprint for human nature and the systems/interactions that are brought about from that nature, not to innovations yet to be nor for the social aspect of humanity in the future that might not be so predictable. Even single individuals can radically change the course of history.

    Pattern recognition isn't everything but it is damned useful to say the least.
    What she said
     
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    Don't even get me started....
     
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    Sounds like you've been dating ISTPs, not INTPs. A fixation on the facts and on history is usually an ST thing, not an NT thing. It's like STs need consent from the facts to believe a pattern is real. NTs, conversely, don't need as much consent, they just jump straight into intuition and ignore the ST facts of reality.

    Anyway, I read that book as well. I completely agree with him. It makes sense that the future course of history is unpredictable since the future growth of knowledge is unpredictable.
     
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    I'm not saying the US is Nazi Germany[/QUOTE]

    Nope... the US is a unique beast all its own where old Nazi's go to die, well fed, of old age... operation paperclip
     
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    Nope... the US is a unique beast all its own where old Nazi's go to die, well fed, of old age... operation paperclip[/QUOTE]
    I deleted my post so I wouldn't cause a shit storm, but think about it.

    History does indeed repeat itself. The more we remember history, the less chance we have of it repeating. That's how I see it

    And I gotta read up on Operation paperclip
     
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    Humans tend to be cyclical.
     
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    I often live in the past for a while - I’d like to go back to the time when you could still sail to Valinor

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