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Television....the sin of all sins

Yes, it's definitely most stimulating, probably more so than television. The micro-flashes exhaust your dopamine levels. That's why experts recommend an hour of computer time per day.

But who follows their advice anyway?

LCD's don't emit micro flashes do they? I thought only CRT's w/ their refresh rates did.
 
The micro-flashes exhaust your dopamine levels. That's why experts recommend an hour of computer time per day.

Really??? :m083: What are the side effects if you do watch too much TV? *listens keenly*
 
Really??? :m083: What are the side effects if you do watch too much TV? *listens keenly*

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No, seriously.

If I recall correctly, the screens and the immediate, high-intensity stimulation are what exhaust you.

Its one of the theories behind computer and television addiction. Your dopamine is engaged at the time of viewing because of micro-flashes, which triggers your reward centers; as soon as you get up and move onto non-screen activities, your dopamine plummets.

I'm not sure if micro-flashes alone are to blame, though; its the only part of the explanation I was given. Background: I had a therapist that was really adamant about eliminating computer and television use almost entirely for all her patients while treating them for depression.

I'll have to find an article online to support this.
 
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No, seriously.

If I recall correctly, the screens and the immediate, high-intensity stimulation are what exhaust you.

Its one of the theories behind computer and television addiction. Your dopamine is engaged at the time of viewing because of micro-flashes, which triggers your reward centers; as soon as you get up and move onto non-screen activities, your dopamine plummets.

I'm not sure if micro-flashes alone are to blame, though; its the only part of the explanation I was given. Background: I had a therapist that was really adamant about eliminating computer and television use almost entirely for all her patients while treating them for depression.

I'll have to find an article online to support this.

Interesing stuff. Thx. I guess i've been warned.
 
I watched television in a hotel, and almost everything was complete GARBAGE, especially all the commercials and those 'call for help adds'...
The same with the radio: SO much talking!!

I realize that America truly is a consumer society but can anyone tell me what people do or where people interact?
 
I watched television in a hotel, and almost everything was complete GARBAGE, especially all the commercials and those 'call for help adds'...
The same with the radio: SO much talking!!

I realize that America truly is a consumer society but can anyone tell me what people do or where people interact?

I can't stand how much they talk on the radio, just play some damn music already!

Where people interact, hrm, I guess that depends on the location.
 
When I think about it though, what people watch on television is mostly fictional garbage. I've stopped reading fictional books for that very reason- it's make believe, doesn't exist, and I would rather spend my time learning information on things that actually effect my world.

:m131: LOL,

Surely though you like to watch an action flick from time to time?

What about well written pieces of literature such as Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Sherlock Holmes, or even Shakespeare's plays? Its amazing how all of these become real within your mind. Yes, I do realise that they fictional and these events have not occurred in real life, thats why half of the time real life is boring and we turn to fictional things.

Are dreams fictional? Or is there a another world within us that some of us choose to open the door too, yet alone see?:m190:
What about music? What about paintings? What about movies? Are they all just fictional rubbish? emotional diarrhea?

Our imagination is very much real and it is not fictional. All of these wondrous things come from our imaginations.

Personally I love TV. I love watching documentaries. I'm also a big movie fan and book reader.
 
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:m131: LOL, a stereotypical ISTP thing to say.

Surely though you like to watch an action flick from time to time?

What about well pieces of literature such as Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Sherlock Holmes, or even Shakespeare? Its amazing how all of these become real within your mind. Yes, I do realise that they fictional and these events have not occurred in real life, thats why half of the time real life is boring and we turn to fictional things.

Are dreams fictional? or is there a another world within us that some of us choose to open the door too, yet alone see?:m190:

Our imagination is very much real and it is not fictional. All of these wondrous things come from our imaginations.

Dreams= the brain's way of processing memories. This is my theory. I prove it true to people who remember their dreams sometimes, like I do. If I think about my dream and who and what was happening I can trace it to things that happened recently mixed with fantasy of things I've seen on television shows or past memories. I think REM is the brain's way of organizing itself, I don't know why we sometimes remember it though.

I only read one Harry Potter book in my life and I had to force myself to read it. It was the second to last book, the one that the film recently was based on. Anyyway, yeah Harry Potter bored me. I did get an award for speaking shakesphering lines from Macbeth because I understood them so well in elementary school but that was pretty much boring too. I never liked shakesphere- I understood his stuff, I just never liked him much.

And lord of the rings....oh man, don't get me started: I could never even watch the movies. They were so overwhelmingly boring for me and so way out and fantastical that I couldn't stand it. It wasn't until recently that I got myself to what the first Pirates of the Carribean movie, because when I originally tried to watch it when it first came out on DVD I fell asleep watching it because the beginning was so boring. The "At worlds' end" or whatever one was the only one I liked.
 
Dreams= the brain's way of processing memories. This is my theory. I prove it true to people who remember their dreams sometimes, like I do. If I think about my dream and who and what was happening I can trace it to things that happened recently mixed with fantasy of things I've seen on television shows or past memories. I think REM is the brain's way of organizing itself, I don't know why we sometimes remember it though.

I only read one Harry Potter book in my life and I had to force myself to read it. It was the second to last book, the one that the film recently was based on. Anyyway, yeah Harry Potter bored me. I did get an award for speaking shakesphering lines from Macbeth because I understood them so well in elementary school but that was pretty much boring too. I never liked shakesphere- I understood his stuff, I just never liked him much.

And lord of the rings....oh man, don't get me started: I could never even watch the movies. They were so overwhelmingly boring for me and so way out and fantastical that I couldn't stand it. It wasn't until recently that I got myself to what the first Pirates of the Carribean movie, because when I originally tried to watch it when it first came out on DVD I fell asleep watching it because the beginning was so boring. The "At worlds' end" or whatever one was the only one I liked.


Im fascinated by you lack of interest for fiction. As a film student finding what makes people tick is a major part in film making.

Say, If you had to watch a movie or read a book what would you want it to be about? What makes you engage in something?

Do you like playing video/computer games? :m190:

I find your response interesting because I have a brother that is an ISTP and he loves novels, action/drama films and computer games but I also have an ISTP boss who has similar veiws to what you have described.

Hmmm....... Its almost like there is two different types of ISTP's.
 
Im fascinated by you lack of interest for fiction. As a film student finding what makes people tick is a major part in film making.

Say, If you had to watch a movie or read a book what would you want it to be about? What makes you engage in something?

Do you like playing video/computer games? :m190:

I find your response interesting because I have a brother that is an ISTP and he loves novels, action/drama films and computer games but I also have an ISTP boss who has similar veiws to what you have described.

Hmmm....... Its almost like there is two different types of ISTP's.

I'm starting to fall along the same lines as Slant. I stopped playing video games, I nearly stopped watching all T.V., (I'm having a bromance with Mike Rowe and I fully admit it.) and most fiction is starting to become...well...drab and useless. I love the concept of fiction and all that, but I feel that I would gain more from learning about real people and real events. Becoming more worldly, you know.
 
Im fascinated by you lack of interest for fiction. As a film student finding what makes people tick is a major part in film making.

Say, If you had to watch a movie or read a book what would you want it to be about? What makes you engage in something?

Do you like playing video/computer games? :m190:

I find your response interesting because I have a brother that is an ISTP and he loves novels, action/drama films and computer games but I also have an ISTP boss who has similar veiws to what you have described.

Hmmm....... Its almost like there is two different types of ISTP's.

No I don't play videogames or computer games but when I had the capability to I liked to play "The Sims" and other simulation games where you could create and control things, like "Zoo Tycoon".

I think the only books I've ever really liked were survivalists books, and a lot of them were nonfiction for example "Never Cry Wolf".

I like movies that have an element of survival-ism in it. I generally don't like action movies though- I prefer them over romantic-comedies (which I HATE) but would rather watch a horror flick. I especially like Zombie movies, Alien Movies, Cohen brother films and older flicks from the 90's like "Flatliners".

Documentaries are what I like best though, like one I recently watched halfway through "religulous".
 
Dreams are training scenarios for real life.
 
So TV is bad cause it has commercials which affect us but the internet is better cause it's more intellectual?

Strange.

TV is full of nonsense but books are a source of wisdom/ knowledge.

Stranger.

Using computers is intellectual.

Strangest.

It matters not one whit what you use. If you're a monghole with a supercomputer your still a monghole after two years. Only if you use the device to improve yourself does it improve yourself.

Oh and isn't this kind of research subject to a heavy dose of finding what you look for? I mean I'm sure that there's smart people who watch TV and dumb people who use the internet... hell you only have to join a gaming clan to see that they can't spell for love not money and their idea of sentence structure and well just english as a whole would make most teachers cry in despair!

Basically a pencil will not make you smarter but if you use it to work through problems on paper and learn from the experience then the pencil has made you smarter. So too is it with TV and even advertising.

Which reminds me, a "factual" book is usually no more than a serious advert for the authors opinion reinforced by convenient research. There's no escaping advertising.
 
What bothers me about tv is what it seems to teach people about what is right, good and moral. Especially modern children's shows. I dislike the focus on popularity, fame and money as The Good (yay Philosophy terms again).
 
Television...the sin of all sins

When we got our first TV back in 1952, programming played only a few hours a day and all I remember that was on were the events of the Adlai Stevenson-Dwight Eisehower campaign. No cartoons, no sitcoms, bo crime shows, no sports. I don't know how it was funded (a good thing to research and I will eventually). To me, TV changed when corporations figured out there was money to be made from this new invention and commercial TV began. Today the "shows" are filler with commercials taking up more time than whatever it is you're trying to watch. When the [icture tube on our first TV died, my mother refused to replace it, so I didn't really grow up watching it, except for a short time during our pre-teen years when we had one again, but watching it was restricted to a few shows on Friday nights.

I gave up on TV long ago because the commercials literally drive me nuts. I do watch Classic Arts Showcase, which is presented without commercials and some shows on History or Discover aren't bad with the commercials muted. Movies I love, but I have most of them onm DVD.

As an aside, the guy who invented TV got a carton of cigarettes and $10 for his efforts. Will have to find a cite for this; it may be an apocryphal story.
 
I mean what the hell is wrong with commercialism, and the message people are getting.

I noticed a commercial at walmart, by the kids/toy department.
It is set on repeat, on a TV screen with a kind female voice saying "Make dreams come true with the most popular toys of the season".
At first I laughed at it but after passing it several times and hearing it over and over again, I realised that perhaps most people dont even notice such a sneeky word in an otherwise positive connotated sentence...

URGH its shocking and highly disturbing!!!
 
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I mean what the hell is wrong with commercialism, and the message people are getting.

I noticed a commercial at walmart, by the kids/toy department.
It is set on repeat, on a TV screen with a kind female voice saying "Make dreams come true with the most popular toys of the season".
At first I laughed at it but after passing it several times and hearing it over and over again, I realised that perhaps most people dont even notice such a sneeky word in an otherwise positive connotated sentence...

URGH its shocking and highly disturbing!!!

I agree completely.

Fortunately, I don't shop at Wal-Mart.
 
I mean what the hell is wrong with commercialism, and the message people are getting.

I noticed a commercial at walmart, by the kids/toy department.
It is set on repeat, on a TV screen with a kind female voice saying "Make dreams come true with the most popular toys of the season".
At first I laughed at it but after passing it several times and hearing it over and over again, I realised that perhaps most people dont even notice such a sneeky word in an otherwise positive connotated sentence...

URGH its shocking and highly disturbing!!!
Welcome to America. A lot of people have the ''buy now;be happ'' attitude, but there are those of us who don't fall for the commercialism/materialism.