Rape prevention and female self-defense

People don't want to give up the violent socialization of men. It is horrible.

Another thing that they should consider is that, we need to dismiss the myth of random stranger in dark alley raping you. Yes, that does happen, but you're much more likely to be raped by your friend, boyfriend, etc.... so really, we need to teach women how to be more careful in interpersonal relationships as well as getting rid of violence in men and patriarchy.

 

I think you're right

I think people should also educate everybody about media... that not all they see is what they get... and they should filter what they get form media

"Bad media is bad but the greater evil is media ignorance"
-uhhh I don't know who said this .. but I know someone said this

you should enter hollywood and be the next REAL James Bond
and teach the violent men/boys wtvr how to be a real man/boy/guy wtvr ahahahaha

because violence.... is bad
<----the creepy guy that might rape in a dark alley

 

I'm quoting my post off of INTJ forum because I see no need to repeat this nor do I think we are going to cover any new ground.

This topic is so disappointing to me, this always happens. As soon as a group of people start talking about rape, two groups begin to emerge. One where women must be constantly vigilante and confident so that she will avoid rape; the fault lies with her, not the rapist. The rapist is only but a predator who will logically deduce which woman is worth the risk This group is typical endorsed by males who want to be able to approach women at any time without them being apprehensive towards them because they AREN'T rapist. The second groups consists of those who realize that rapes happen, and it's never the fault of the woman (which it isn't) but must always have a shield and a fear of what a random male do to her. The proponents of this point of view are typically women. I know this is a generalization of this topic but, in general, nothing REALLY has been said that has not been said before.

(Insightful comment added by another poster The problem with this is that it assumes that rapists are just supposed to regulate themselves or that society is supposed to train all young boys/men that rape is wrong; no means no etc. They assume that rape is purely an issue ego and male entitlement created by a society that pushes this ideal of the "assertive male" who brings home the bacon.)

I will post more later

edit:
A huge majority of rapes are committed by men against women

I'm nitpicky, but rape is rape. No matter what.

 

Brilliant mf. I want to hug you right now, lol. I'll try to comment more tomorrow.

 

There is a condom out now called the ( Rapex anti-rape condom) worn inside a woman. It has plastic barbed teeth that sink into the man's 8===D as he pull's back. It never ceases to amaze me on technological advancements.

I don't even know if it's sold inside the U.S. but it was created in South Africa . I've seen nothing of it mentioned in the U.S. media. It does have the potential to be abused by women seeking revenge , but I believe the good points of it outweigh the bad points.

Though one downside to it is, once it starts circulating in the media about women using it a lot and the many male attackers being stopped with it... rapists will just start sticking their fingers in first to see if the woman has it inside her, then if she does... the rapist will most likely savagely beat her, then rape her after they pull out the Rapex device, then kill her.

I for one , grew up around guns, and believe in the 2nd amendment strongly. A woman who carries a gun and knows how to use it won't ever be raped, or at least her chances of being raped will be very very unlikely.

I maybe an INFJ ,strong and male,but I'm also an 8W7 enneagram (SP) Self-Preservation variant, I hate war, but I like to see the weak turn the tables on evil predators. That device looks like this>

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2009/04/rapex.jpg

 

The problem is that, unfortunately, ideals don't protect us from rape. We have to learn to defend ourselves, because there is no other choice. I agree with everything mf said, but I also think that in the here and now, such defense is necessary. Unfortunately most men will most likely be much stronger than most women.

I think the problem is that boys are taught from early on to get sex whenever and however they can. A man is not a 'man' until he's had sex. A woman is not 'good' unless she's defended herself against unwanted sex. To me, the fact that most boys are encouraged to be violent, is less important than the fact that they're encouraged to have sex, lots of it - and discussion of the woman's wants and needs rarely take place in that. More men seem to feel sex in general as belonging to them. Very few men actually care about their sexual partners. Sex is less about connection, and more about quantity. And women exploit these things too - there is so much porn out there with a woman being 'used' to fulfill all male fantasies. Her wishes don't matter at all - in porn, women *love* to have cum on their faces, or to be degraded in however many ways they can. So women as well as men are contributing to this thought process.

I'm not going to apologize or defend what I believe. I also believe that in society in general, women are seen as 'lesser.' I know that people will disagree with me, but I've seen enough in my life to know that this is true. In person, if a man and a woman both express the same viewpoint, more people, men and women both, will support the man. Our world is totally messed up in this way. Especially because we keep denying that it's true, when in your mind it may not be true, but in action it is.

 

Eh, I honestly have no ideas for how to rectify such problems in the community and the like. I do however think that all rapists should just be put down, perhaps if it's not seen as such a low level crime by the justice system then perhaps less people would contemplate trying it.

 

There are two ways to deal with violence/rape against women. The indirect way, which is a more long term sociological solution where we educate young men and erase ideas in society as a form of long term protection. However, that takes time, effort and money to even instigate large scale things like that.

Then we need a direct solution to the problem right now.

Combat psychologists, military combatives experts and self protection instructors studies in how to diffuse violence come mainly from research carried out in the second world war by people like William Fairbairn. Most systems or respected experts in the field of self protection absolutely understand that teaching people to avoid violence in the first place is too late. BUT it is the best we can do because the question for those people is: "How can I teach a person to make themselves less of a victim of attack?" That is a down to earth, direct and pragmatic solution needed NOW.

Most good and respectable people in this field understand that is is woefully inadequate but it is the best they can do until society is fundamentally changed to the point where the odds aren't so stacked against the victim.

Now whether or not the self protection works for women, is another topic entirely.

 

Rape is not seen as a low level crime, it is up there with murder.

 

Depends where you are I guess. Plenty of places only give rapists around 7 years, some even lighten sentences then that. A crime that destroys a persons life should at least warrant a life sentence, until it does I am going to see it as being regarded as a low level crime. Even though, from my perspective, I see rape as far worse than murder.

 

Well in the UK, it is frequently remarked on in the news how most people consider rape to be second from murder. But at the same time, the punishments do not reflect severity of the crime either. Anyway, if you start giving all rapists full life sentences, we'd have a housing crisis on our hands.

 

Hence why we should shoot them.

 

Heh, I thought you'd say that.

Capital punishment is wrong. No matter how bad the situation is.

 

Prevent Rape.
Say Yes.​

 

*drops ACME anvil on Shai Gar's head*

 

This is sooo true....and soooo sad........ why are there people like that???

 

rape yourself!

 

But then we come to the issue that very few people know or have what it takes to actually learn how to do it.

 

learn how to do what? defend themselves?