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INFJ predisposition to ethno-nationalism?

I just wish society would stop focusing on "self preservation" based on fear. Fear that one race is more prominent or will become more prominent, etc.

We are all human beings.

We should embrace everyone's culture and race. We should not want to divide the human race, we should want to co-exist together and be respectful of one another.

P.S.: im an INFP ;)
 
So, do you believe in white genocide?
 
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The OP already expressed shame and regret for his posts, so I think we can let it go. Posting provocative prompts is not helping. Move on. Thank you.
 
I apologize. It was an irresponsible post and obviously I wasn't thinking clearly. I wish I could delete my account and excuse myself from the scorn I've invited upon myself. Can anybody help me delete my account or thread?

I've only read up to this post, but thus far, you are the politest racist I've ever stumbled across :sweatsmile:
 
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I feel like there is a possibility that INFJ types may be predisposed to ethno-nationalism and I was curious if anybody else ever felt this way. In my case, I speak of a deep concern for the future of the white race. Make no mistake about it, I have low tolerance for other groups and it's more than just skin color, it's from the behavioral patterns, and it is irreconcilable at this point.

I've always struggled with feeling like a part of our society and have wanted a more harmonious society for my own benefit but equally for others who have been disenfranchised or hurt by the effects of multiculturalism. I do this not as a person who wants to harm others, but as a person who wants to protect myself and others who are similarly situated.

I was fed a steady diet of multicultural indoctrination growing up, and even modeled my personal style to a mild degree with inner city black rap/hood culture because I had some distant familial connections to the urban ghetto and it felt trendy at the time. The violence of that lifestyle was something I put on a pedestal, and I was a phony who used it as a defense mechanism. I'm deeply ashamed of this period in my life.

I began to notice that people were seeming to self segregate themselves and advocate for their own race/religion except white people rarely did this. I began to do a lot of personal research into what makes things this way. At some point, I came under the sway of white nationalism in my research. You might say that white nationalism is just another defense mechanism, but I would have to disagree. It's actually how I feel, and I don't want to hurt anybody feelings, but it's the truth. I fully believe white people are fractured, are in decline, are in danger, and are headed for extinction.

I'm not trying to garner support for white nationalism.

I'm just asking if any other INFJ has had a similar journey or feelings as they've grown up.


I know Adolf Hitler was supposedly an INFJ.

My insatiable desire to research the underlying reasoning behind things has led me to reject multiculturalism. This is difficult for me because to speak of it openly because of societal stigma.

I feel like on one hand, I can't pretend to appreciate multiculturalism. I have a deep desire to end it, but it seems like an unattainable goal. So deeper into my own head I must crawl and it's eating me up.

@Cherryhead ok. Having looked at your post and the fact that you seem somewhat remorseful for the way you have put things, I will try to give a balanced response to the what you have put.

Why do any human beings have "white skin" http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

If you look at this article I think you will get a fairly good explanation of why some humans who moved into northern europe, adapted from darker skins to white, to better take advantage of the lower UV sunlight levels. In every sense though, they are no less or more evolved than any other different race. White people are not superior or different in any other aspect to other races. Take a look at Jesse Owens winning the gold in the Berlin Olympics, against the "master race" if you don't believe me. As for culture ? Without going on a liberal guilt trip, I would say this. White people have invaded, attacked, killed, enslaved and robbed other races from all over the world, at points in history.

I don't think that's such a great record to be proud of. We are hopefully getting away from that now. I think if you were sick tomorrow, or had an emergency and a non-white doctor was able to help you ? You would be very glad of their help. It's very easy to take notice of the superficial differences that exist between human beings, but they are only superficial. At some point in the past, every one of your ancestors had darker skin. Only very minor adaptations in your genetic make up have adjusted it to be paler.

I think if you took a step back and substituted the words "white" with "black" in your post and read it again, you'd maybe get a sense of what any non-white person might have felt like, if they had read your post. I'm not attacking you and have no wish to upset you, but I hope you will think about what I have posted.
 
@Cherryhead ok. Having looked at your post and the fact that you seem somewhat remorseful for the way you have put things, I will try to give a balanced response to the what you have put.

Why do any human beings have "white skin" http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

If you look at this article I think you will get a fairly good explanation of why some humans who moved into northern europe, adapted from darker skins to white, to better take advantage of the lower UV sunlight levels. In every sense though, they are no less or more evolved than any other different race. White people are not superior or different in any other aspect to other races. Take a look at Jesse Owens winning the gold in the Berlin Olympics, against the "master race" if you don't believe me. As for culture ? Without going on a liberal guilt trip, I would say this. White people have invaded, attacked, killed, enslaved and robbed other races from all over the world, at points in history.

I don't think that's such a great record to be proud of. We are hopefully getting away from that now. I think if you were sick tomorrow, or had an emergency and a non-white doctor was able to help you ? You would be very glad of their help. It's very easy to take notice of the superficial differences that exist between human beings, but they are only superficial. At some point in the past, every one of your ancestors had darker skin. Only very minor adaptations in your genetic make up have adjusted it to be paler.

I think if you took a step back and substituted the words "white" with "black" in your post and read it again, you'd maybe get a sense of what any non-white person might have felt like, if they had read your post. I'm not attacking you and have no wish to upset you, but I hope you will think about what I have posted.

I feel this INFP desires harmony and validation. The original intent of my post was not debating the merits of white nationalism, but rather if being an INFP might make a person more amenable to such an value system. If a person wanted to say that they also have had these feelings to a varying degree, I would have found that to be an interesting pattern. If they said otherwise, it would give me pause to doubt my belief on the interrelation between INFP and ethno-nationalism.
It wouldn't give me pause to doubt my beliefs on ethno-nationalism itself, perhaps only if keeping it in the forefront is hurting me personally.

You go on to make a lot of assertions that I don't agree with and would like to challenge but to debate them would only sidetrack my original intent. The things I would say would become increasingly offensive, and it would be easy for me to lose my respectful tone.
 
I feel like a person can desire separation from a group without treating these people badly when they inevitably cross paths. I'll give a person directions regardless of race. I'll help someone jump start their car regardless of race. But what I don't want is certain groups living near me, or being involved in my personal life.
 
I feel like a person can desire separation from a group without treating these people badly when they inevitably cross paths. I'll give a person directions regardless of race. I'll help someone jump start their car regardless of race. But what I don't want is certain groups living near me, or being involved in my personal life.

I think you probably want to let this go, because the responses you'll keep getting are not going to be kind if you keep pushing. It's also looks bad that your firsts posts are about racial segregation. There were so many other ways you could have introduced yourself to us, and you chose a controversial topic based on race to start with?

Do you really think people are going to be sympathetic to any of your views now that you've pushed the argument? There's a time and a place, and you chose the wrong place, and we're no longer in a time where these views are helpful or welcome to anyone, here at least. Racial discrimination caused by racial separatist views are the cause of much violence, rape, and conflict in this world. We don't need more of it in the real world, and we don't need it on this forum.

I was trying you to give you the benefit of the doubt and was even trying to defend you since you showed some regret, but apparently, you didn't really get the message and don't seem to care how your views are affecting anyone. So, you're on your own. See ya! :)
 
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I feel like a person can desire separation from a group without treating these people badly when they inevitably cross paths. I'll give a person directions regardless of race. I'll help someone jump start their car regardless of race. But what I don't want is certain groups living near me, or being involved in my personal life.

Best go found your own country then ;)

I don't think ethno nationalism is a "type" thing by the way.

And you'd need a really really large survey to find out.

Go take this discussion to INTPf, where they are less easily offended.

Look for a bloke called Tberg.
His favourite ideology is the romanticised fascism of Julius Evola and a longing for the preservation of the none existent "European white race".

Apart from his dodgy ideologies, he's a pretty cool bloke, and he'd be more than happy to discuss the supposed intellectualism of such theories.

Pass my regards onto the forum if you swing by ;)
 
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I don't want sympathy. I want somebody to delete my motherfucking account!
Piece of shit fucking forum hiding functionality from users. I don't fucking care.
All these bells and whistles and a person can't delete a post. What is this fucking 1984? Eat shit.

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I can't help but notice that his escalation came after he was pushed into a corner and condemned/rejected... and then after being humiliated by apologising, lectured some more.

This thread could be titled:
How to push someone who is stressed from navigating race relations into a blatant racist in less than 24 hours 101.

After someone is pushed into the stereotype designated for them from the outset everyone can say: A-ha!
 
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