Thanks. I'd also like to clarify that when we see shitty people we also see the reasons behind it, so it's a for sure thing, but it is also hindering at times. We generally like to stay far away from those kind of people if we aren't trying to change them, so it's either change them or stay away from them. But we could definitely use a toning down of our Judgement aspect from time to time. And thanks for the ENFJ friends advice. Of course I won't be actively thinking, "Is he/she an ENFJ? No, oh shame bye bye/Yes, oh yeah come here." But i've met many ENFJ's and ESFJ's and they're really fun to be around with and they really energise me. I've always read up on how they energise INFJ's and INTJ's, but experiencing that is a whole different story -- it's really nice. And there is another topic I was on recently talking about MBTI and genetics, so you being an INTJ and having an INFJ mother could be an interesting contribution if you'd enjoy such a topic. Again, I really appreciate your advice and input
Hehe, no problem, glad you appreciate it.
The cool thing about INFJ's is that you have this automatic "shitty person" sensor on you that gives you that impression of someone in no time. For me -as INTJ-
/ personally, it's more of a "motivation checklist" I do internally on a person, it's a measurement against a set of personal "correct core principles" but that seems to be much more subjective as this is something internally and it's slower to process. With INFJ's it seems to go much more fluently. And it btw is a big amount of respect if an INFJ tries to change or understand you rather than wanting to stay away from you (which is understandable).
Another personal impression from INFJ's is that it seems that everything a person does or says is being monitored. It's a bizarre thing.
So that's kind of what I meant with "tuning down the judgement knob" because of the impression that INFJ's will always and with proper reason observe and measure everyone all the time and I tend to observe this from the side as well. However it also is a very important self-protective tool against people with very ill intention, so I guess the "tuning down" is only meant for safe situations. Anyway, I don't want to go further on that, I'm not an INFJ.
ENFJ's are energisers yeah, they just give that interesting "je ne sais quoi" vibe off that just goes beyond my logic, it's like a unknown puzzle to be solved and leads to fun discussions/idea storms. But with ESFJ's, I have the impression from them in general that they try to have some kind of a more traditionally organised sense of teaming people? Which is cool on its own, less kind of my jam. I find them kind of predictably boring in my limited experience.
By the way INFP's are awesome as your personal listener buddies, their empathic understanding is awesome.
For the genetics part, I honestly think it's more of a random factor than an direct link between genetics. There might perhaps be some core traits were taken over from the parents from birth , as in INFJ + INTP -> INTJ but that doesn't work as Te or Fi is just nowhere to be seen in the primary functions of INFJ/INTP. Without further research it's inconclusive. It's interesting to think and theorise about it though. Personally I think it's a mix of genetics, first years of the child when they communicate and learn from the parents and epigenetics (influence from the environment). I've seen similar answers in the thread, so will check on it again someday IF I ever get to that point of research.
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From the personal perspective (and a bit of a vent-out reflection I'm doing here): I tend to reflect a lot towards myself as kind of a personal judge. I get a sort of amplification when I do that in the vicinity of INFJ's, which makes me in turn become very cautious and (self)-observant on the actions that I do. I'd say it's more kind of looking at a mirror kind of vibe that I'm getting.
I try to act properly through my core principles, but with moments I'm just not in the mood of doing so or I tend to put myself too much into the center of a situation giving off egocentric vibes or I can just be a plain asshole by opening my dumb Te mouth (without the intention of hurting, although I comes off as such). But that's a bad side of me that comes off, for which I'm not proud of and tend to hide in general. But with INFJ's this just doesn't work. It's the whole "the mask is removed" kind of thing. I know a couple of INFJ's in real life and with all of them I have that kind of vibe. I also get that vibe here from time to time.
The cool thing though is that it motivates me to become better as a person through reflection, the bad thing though is that it also tends to amplify the introspection on the worst sides of myself, saying hi to the NiFi loop, over-reflecting all my actions. Again, this is all personal and I don't like to be open with all of this but I have the impression that it wouldn't hurt to open up here from time to time (or just open up more often to my friends) rather than to internalise everything, just go no-nonsense. You're good listeners and judgers and this is just a forum. And this venting did kind of good.
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Anyway having said all of that, the awesome part of having an INFJ mother and INTP father is that I can just be plain open with them, feeling wise with her, logic wise with him and just get some reality checks from them. This is the same with my friends, but in a less open way. Both of them "get" what I mean between all my chaotic thinking/explaining and both can give me a proper reflection so I can get my feet on the ground again. I wish I was less of a turbulent character and I'm focusing on that, but yeah, it's in steps.
