Cruz VS Trump
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South Park was prophetic in their episode about voting for a new mascot. A giant douche or a turd sandwich. There is no lesser of two evils. How can you justify voting for either? Trump and Cruz are both completely unqualified to be president. This is all moot anyway. The next president will automatically be a democrat. Not because Hillary is a wonderful candidate, but because her competition is a joke. All the Rupublicans needed to do was find someone decent to nominate and they easily could have won. But they blew it. I think Hillary will be president from 2017-2025. That means at least 16 straight years of a democratic White House. If the GOP doesn't do some serious soul searching they won't have another president for a very long time. I am not playing sides, just observing the circus. Personally I dread the notion of Bill Clinton living in the White House again. I do not like dynasties so I would like all of the Bushes and Clintons to disappear. That leaves us with Bernie vs. Trump/Cruz, which means most people will be unhappy. Why can't we find a good independent candidate who appeals to more than half of the citizens of our country? I am tired of both parties. They seem like the flip side of the same coin most days. My favorite thing about Bernie is he is an atheist. He doesn't talk up religion as Hillary, Trump and Cruz do. Keep religion out of politics please. Religion has messed up enough already as it is. As for Trump vs. Cruz, they will both automatically lose so it almost doesn't matter who is nominated. GOP RIP. Let's see if I am right.
I think Hillary will be president because the elections haven't been fair in the US for a long time and all the feminazis will vote for her because shes a woman. Of everyone running, I find Hillary the worst option for the position. That is because she never has any consistancy in her answers, she will make up stories and she constantly lies about everything. I've never seen her follow up on anything she promised or said she would do. She usually is very vocal against things and if the people win something like gay marrige that she was against, she claims she was one of its biggest advocates all along whilst she most definately wasent. Now I don't really care about such things except that she has a very hostile view towards the US's foreign relations. Hell she took up the chant on getting money out of politics yet of all the contestents shes the most heavily corporate funded candidate. Most noticebly are the backers she claims to be against like pharmaceutical companies.
Sanders and Trump both seem more inclined to set up more positive foreign relations and work stuff out like genuine politicians, and that is negotiate a mutually beificial deal. IF its a choice between Trump and Cruz I would choose Trump for the same reason. If it is a choice between Hillary and Trump I would choose Trump again for that reason. If it would be a vote between Sanders and Trump however I would choose Sanders. But I am not an american so I cannot vote for the candidate that I believe is best for both america and the entire world. I just think that another war is pretty much guarranteed if neither Sanders or Trump is chosen and it will then likely towards the end of their terms since most americans tend to remember wartime presidents more positively than those who end them because then the economic realities catch up.
That said, I dont think Cruz stands even the remotest chance of winning, hes even further hid in the spotlight than sanders thanks to that bird showing up. I think the problem with Cruz being behind in the polls is that hes simply not interestng enough for most media to cover. I think its pretty clear it will be Hillary VS Trump, and hillary being not a democrat but a plutocrat, and trump just being an asshole makes the choice fairly clear. Cause Cruz won't be able to get the votes he need. Still should trump win there is still a chance he will be rejected as president just like when bush got made president over Al Gore
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As an outsider to America, and therefore taking less interest in the credentials of 'making a good president', I am compelled to want Trump to be president. Why? It'll be the most entertaining spectacle of the century.
He might be entertaining, but what if he becomes president and then bombs your country? That is what I call risky entertainment. I would rather watch a movie.
Hahah. What can I say, I have a very, very dark sense of humour
The risk for me is almost nil, since the chances of the U.S bombing Australia are slim as uncle Jim. But for some other poor country? Well, that's another story.
Edit: Disclaimer: When I talk politics on the internet, never take me seriously
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I think Trump is less likely to bomb the **** out of another country than hillary is. So far every establishment sponsored president did that, Trump and Sanders are the only ones who aren't totally under their control. If it's Hillary who wins, I'm expecting her to change the provocative US/NATO Russia from trying to crawl onto russia and force them to strike to simply striking or conducting false flag operations.
I mean Common, between Trump and Hillary? Hillary is the most corrupt female politician in the world, just look at all the things she says one day to gain voters and see her change it the next. If she sounds even remotely positive now, then how the hack can you not expect her to unleash disaster upon the entire earth ? x) ? Now sure, trump also seems to be just yelling something but he's the only real businessman in the election, he would be more inclined to be a damn politician and strike a mutually beneficial deal instead of starting something.
[video=youtube;xQ9KCuXw_E4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ9KCuXw_E4[/video]
Let's be honest. The next president will suck no matter who it is. The best and the brightest? Please. Why can't a rich genius like Bill Gates ever run for president? I don't know if he would be a good president, but at least he is intelligent, successful, humanitarian and his money makes Trump look poor in comparison. He would actually be completely self funded. That begs the question. If you could choose anyone alive to be president, who would you choose? How about philosopher/neuroscientist Sam Harris as president for example? At least he knows how to construct a rational argument unlike many of our past presidents. And he seems ethical and brilliant. How about an infj for president? Everyone who reads this would probably be better than Trump. I would vote for Iggy Pop before I would vote for the four current candidates. Lust for life in the White House. Can you imagine? If you make a compelling case I will vote for you. What are your qualifications?
[MENTION=14664]dang[/MENTION] I can't make the case for myself, I wasn't born in the US, so I am disqualified from being president.
I am not American, but as a Canadian I don't get the luxury of sitting back like [MENTION=14675]Night Owl[/MENTION] and watching the spectacle from afar. There are a few strange thing going on in the US. One is the idea that being an outsider with little or no political experience is desirable. I don't think the presidency is an entry level position, so in order to qualify some experience in government and knowing how government works should be a prerequisite. Just because you are successful in business (and there is some debate about how "successful" Trump actually is) does this make you a good political leader? How does success in one field predict success in another? I don't think it does, and if you look at successful presidents in the past, not too many were businessmen.
Although she is not an ideal choice, Hillary is the best one. She has the experience and the intelligence for the job an its not likely she will screw things up too much. Cruz is blinded by ideology and is unable to lead the entire nation. He is unfit to be president because he lacks the temperament to be a leader. Trump is also unfit for the presidency. He lacks the required experience and temperament and is blinded by his massive ego. Both Republicans cannot lead and are dangerous to the nation and ultimately to the world. Hillary maybe corrupt, but I would argue there has been far more damage done to the world by willful incompetence and blind adherence to ideology than by actual corruption and deviousness. The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions, and we headed down that road if a Republican gets into the White House this time.
I am not American, but as a Canadian I don't get the luxury of sitting back like [MENTION=14675]Night Owl[/MENTION] and watching the spectacle from afar. There are a few strange thing going on in the US. One is the idea that being an outsider with little or no political experience is desirable. I don't think the presidency is an entry level position, so in order to qualify some experience in government and knowing how government works should be a prerequisite. Just because you are successful in business (and there is some debate about how "successful" Trump actually is) does this make you a good political leader? How does success in one field predict success in another? I don't think it does, and if you look at successful presidents in the past, not too many were businessmen.
Although she is not an ideal choice, Hillary is the best one. She has the experience and the intelligence for the job an its not likely she will screw things up too much. Cruz is blinded by ideology and is unable to lead the entire nation. He is unfit to be president because he lacks the temperament to be a leader. Trump is also unfit for the presidency. He lacks the required experience and temperament and is blinded by his massive ego. Both Republicans cannot lead and are dangerous to the nation and ultimately to the world. Hillary maybe corrupt, but I would argue there has been far more damage done to the world by willful incompetence and blind adherence to ideology than by actual corruption and deviousness. The road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions, and we headed down that road if a Republican gets into the White House this time.
Hillary is part of a 5th column attempting to over throw the American government, beware.
Imo.
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If you truly believe that [MENTION=14074]Sinny[/MENTION] then that 5th column has already taken over years ago. There nothing you or I (because we are both foreigners) can do about anyway is there? You've got your own problems over there, like politicians who haven't yet accepted that the sun has set on British Empire.
The Empire's old hat, all our globalists infiltrators are working towards the 'new world order'... The Uni polar world order.
As for what we can do, investigate, expose, spread awareness.
Our governments are full of co opted nonces, and it should be our priority to remove them from office.
I find it hard to disagree with you [MENTION=14074]Sinny[/MENTION]. The problem is telling the good ones from the bad ones...
I voted for Bush out of lesser of evils. I cringed when I did it. In the end he did not turn out as bad as I imagined. Comparing Obama and Bush.. for as bad as Bush was he was a scholar compared to a fool.
I did not think it could get any worse. Enter Trump. Enter the people who actually think he will make a good President. Not just the people who will vote for him as the lesser of evils but... actually think he will make a good President.
And its not like things are going to reverse and get better from now on.
I did not think it could get any worse. Enter Trump. Enter the people who actually think he will make a good President. Not just the people who will vote for him as the lesser of evils but... actually think he will make a good President.
And its not like things are going to reverse and get better from now on.
Have no fear. I have high hopes for Ben Carson being selected by Trump as his running mate.
I can't shake the feeling that this whole primary race is some kind of staged spectacle. None of the candidates seem real; they're more like caricatures in some twisted political allegory. The conservative candidate is an evil, politically-incorrect and socially backward motormouth nut that wants to shut down borders and get on back to the ol' glory days. The middle-of-the-road liberal candidate is a wishy-washy, flippity-floppity classic politician that we all are used to and who has mastered the art of smiling and talking from both sides of her mouth. Meanwhile, the far left socialist candidate is portrayed as the only calm and non-dramatic voice with a plan, to who. birds flock to in a manner a Disney princess would envy and, as far as the media and liberal arts majors are concerned, can do no wrong and probably poops rainbows.
Like... Really? No one finds this strange? No one thinks this a little weird? Not even a little bit? Do you actually believe this just happens to be the way the deck was dealt and these candidates are the best and brightest that this country has to offer?
The cynic in me always wonders what the media is up to and takes a careful look at who it tries extra hard to villify vs. what it exalts and I ask myself why. Especially when it feels less like I'm being reported to and more like I'm being led to make up my mind about something.
I don't know about the rest of you, but tis election doesn't inspire much of my confidence in the idea of giving the government a bigger role than it already has, especially the way some people are talking these days.
Like... Really? No one finds this strange? No one thinks this a little weird? Not even a little bit? Do you actually believe this just happens to be the way the deck was dealt and these candidates are the best and brightest that this country has to offer?
The cynic in me always wonders what the media is up to and takes a careful look at who it tries extra hard to villify vs. what it exalts and I ask myself why. Especially when it feels less like I'm being reported to and more like I'm being led to make up my mind about something.
I don't know about the rest of you, but tis election doesn't inspire much of my confidence in the idea of giving the government a bigger role than it already has, especially the way some people are talking these days.
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