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    I wouldn't go that far. Most people don't even display symptoms so yes, the hospitals will be overwhelmed and there will be a short term run on the stores when people panic but it will recover.

    Its not 1930s level and its not a banking collapse. In fact all the panic buying will give a bost to quite a few businesses. A few more will suffer due to supply side shortage but it will pick back up, and any sensible businesses with enough funding can wheather it, but those on lifesupport and surviving month to month will be swept away but that isn't unusual for a minor hiccup in the market.
     
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    If the political forces have their way everything will be back to "normal" asap. Public health is at the forefront of concerns at the moment, but as soon as the economy starts to go belly up health takes a back seat and God Damn anyone who dares get sick as Trump will say it's all their own fault.
     
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    Nah Republicans will get sick same as Dems. Infact possibly more since considerably more Republicans and their voters are over 60...

    The President and Republicans will see this a massive threat and dump as miuch money into fighting it as possible.
     
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    But those same voters tend to have more money and better health care to start with. The bulk of the virus will hit those with already existing conditions.

    TBH, the mortality rate of this so far seems to be around 2%ish. That's not bad. (I say that with a pang of sadness) It could be looked at as mother nature's way of cleaning out the sick and frail. Don't think of me as being cold as I have been in that group since I was 5. That's how the religious groups will see it, that's how the republicans will see it. Of course this is all just my opinion of what could happen.

    I really don't want to find out who's version comes to pass.
     
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    I don't want what you are smoking.
     
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    Tsk Tsk Moonflier, bad Moonflier.
     
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    Nah it will hit the old really bad. Even good health insurance won't cover if there literally isn't enough vaccine to go around (which there isn't right now).

    And you don't need to have pre-existing conditions to die from it. It won't help, but a diabetic has better chances of survival than a 70 year old.

    Also babies. That will really worry when hospitals have a huge amount of infant mortality.

    When good Christians start dying in equal numbers the Republicans will pay attention.
     
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    This virus is not impacting children like it is the older age groups. Hardest hit are of course the elderly.

    Oh, and:

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    If the prognosis is accurate and the major hit is going to be on the old white Republicans why is anyone complaining? That solves any number of your problems.
     
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    Its not a good idea to treat political enenmies as sub-human. That's Nazi and Soviet territory.

    Doesn't matter if the other side tries to dehumanise you, never do that or you have no moral high ground.

    A death, Republican or Democrat is a bad thing because it is a human death. All death should be mourned and avoided if possible.
     
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    This s a very hard topic to bring humor to, but I appreciate the attempt. Indeed it would be nice to have a democrat back in office just to bring the country back to some resemblance of balance.

    Half my family is comprised of old white republicans. Many people walk the line between R&D, as I do. I certainly don't wish ill on any of them, or neighbors, or coworkers, or anyone.
     
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    Be that as it may that is not universally shared sentiment on this list. As gets posted semi-regularly.
     
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    1. Thank you. 2. I don't know that I was going for the humor angle. Most people (including myself) don't really want death to others however, that does get posted on here rather routinely.
     
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    So now you can explain to me why Republicans NOT caring for dying "non-Christians" is the moral high ground to asking if Republicans dying wouldn't solve Democrats problems?

    Larry
     
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    Calm yourself lad. Not a Democrat or Republican mate. No dog in this fight.

    But a political party cares about its voter base. There is a huge Evangalist Republican base so they will pay attention to Christian deaths.

    Not saying they won't care about non-Christian deaths but its a party calculus.

    Same as why many Dem candidates push African American issues to the front. Its seeking votes.
     
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    hmmmmmm so....it is alright if you suggest that Republicans don't care if Democrats die but, it is amoral for me to ask what problem dying Republicans create for Democrats?

    Trump won 49% of the vote ( I did not research this) but I find it hard to believe that 60 plus is a demographic that is 49% of the population.

    Trump also won Michigan and Wisconsin (to name 2) that would have required Democrat votes........those states are not 51% Republican.
     
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    Like everything now, that you are in Amerika, you can believe whatever you want. Another alternative could be that old white Republicans COULD care about ALL people's well being.
     
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    Someone's looking for a fight where there isn't one.

    If you think every Republican Senator or Congressman is a saint I have a bridge to sell you. Some of them genuninely don't care about dying Democrat voters, its not good for their career. Same with some Dems and Republican voters.

    Not all, but I never said all, so you can stop with your strawman.

    Someone saying "Republicans dying is good for the Dems" is not equivalent as saying "Some politicians won't care unless their voting block dies"

    One is about the character of politicians, the other is a sweeping statement about those who vote for a political party.
     
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    But they don't. Speaking from personal experience avoiding fights with family.
     
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