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  1. Satya

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    You tell me.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8433640.stm

     
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    Getting drunk is the normal way to become brave and stupid.

    Awful story anyway.
     
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    Yes, it was very brave of them to actually do so in a society where homosexuality is prohibited and although it might have been quite stupid, something like this needs to happen eventually, In a country like Mali where people are discriminated and condeem because of sexual orientation, there must be some sort of rebellion, sadly that's the only way people have gotten their rights by protest. I admre them for doing such a thing, I know I would not have the guts to do so if I were to live in Malawi, sometimes people do sacrifices for something even though it might be considered stupid..I really don't know how to explain this, but I think what they did it's very admirable.
     
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    This makes me wonder if someone should write a book about the Stonewall riots and how they started the gay rights movement here in America and distribute it in Africa. There are people out there who will take a stand.
     
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    I think that they were being brave. Extremely brave. I think that when you live in that kind of repressed manner even if you are drunk to hold hands in public would be a huge deal. I think they were being brave.

    Brave is knowing the consequences and doing it anyways. Foolish is when you are not fully aware of the consequences and do something.
     
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    Both brave and stupid.

    I don't care to discuss this further.
     
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    Stupidly brave? I'm not sure if I have the cajones to do something like that.
     
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    I'm going to say stupid.
     
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    I'm going to say neither brave nor stupid. They were just doing what came natural to them (which did not harm anyone else), and they are going to be punished for it.
     
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    Well, what was Tank Man? Same thing, really.
     
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    I really like the way you put it sookie.

    I really feel that I can't decide until I knew their motives and intentions, where they were coming from. People can do things that are "stupid" and require bravery.. but then, what is a "stupid" action anyways? I don't know. To me, it was brave, because I don't see myself going through with something like that based on who I am today. But can an act be brave if it doesn't scare someone? For example, I recall telling someone a story once and they commented on me having courage - I was really surprised, because there was a lot that situation pulled from me and at the time courage didn't top the list. In retrospect, I suppose it was courageous, but when it mattered it wasn't so I didn't define it as such.

    So it really depends. The consequences are so serious that I reckon they were brave, but I actually don't know. As for stupid, depends on their motives.
     
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    Tank man was neither brave nor stupid. He was courageous.
     
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    How do you differentiate between brave and courageous?
     
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    So your thread is one big false dichotomy? :tongue1:
     
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    Yes. I thought that was obvious. I just wanted an excuse to post another gay story I found interesting.
     
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    Brave. To Stand up to a society than you KNOw is going to incrimnate you for you simply loving your partner...is one of the bravest things ive ever heard of...too brave.

    I honor those two.:m059::m107::m059:
     
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    Linguistically...they are synonymous.

    Culturally...bravery is fearlessness in the face of danger and courage is facing danger despite fear.
     
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    This is a great response!! You remind me how important it is to try to refrain judging. I think that we can still have admiration for people. Judging people is a slippery slope!
     
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    I agree! I want to add another category!

    From my own experience. I think that the category is relevant to the thread though. I can only relate it to my experience though.

    When I got my father out. People have called me brave. They also called me courageous.

    I call myself desperate. I made a choice to pursue the restraining order because I could no longer take it and was terrified that he was going to kill me or that I would finally kill myself to escape.

    So I think that we can add desperation to the courage and bravery categories. Desperation is doing a seemingly brave act because you feel that you have no other choice.
     
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