If you call this man a Christian then you have entered into a world so vague that has no want for solidity.
If you call this man a Christian then you have entered into a world so vague that has no want for solidity.
apparently,
I have entered into a world so vague...
and you remain steadfast in a world of solidity.
I agree. If you're going to define "God" so vaguely that the concept is practically meaningless, then what's the point? You might as well proclaim the divinity of quarks.
Those who build on rocks often prize their stability, no matter how humble their shack may be.
Tell me how is the sand?
For the first video: Then why call it God? Why not just call it life?
to me, john shelby hit the nail on the head here with what it means imo to be spiritual. in enneagram this is called essence, the source of all that is that - as he said; fills every possible nook and cranny from the quark to the cosmos. when everything is made from the same source, its inherently equal, and right, and as it should be.
i would say you could call it just that. i think if we can see ourselves and everything in our lives as manifestations of god, we can not only appreciate ourselves, but appreciate eachother more and as a legitimate connected source of god/innocence/life wtv you want to call it. this realization is what encourages us to live in the moment and life to its fullest.
but i think to do this first we must be able to see and recognize this source within ourselves, and thats what diamond approach (enneagram) is all about, helping one see their true nature through dissolving the personality. it doesn't feel so much like a religion or psychological theory, but more of a realization that what you are right now is natural and ok, that theres nothing you should or shouldn't be, everything including yourself is just the natural evolution of what it means to exist, and that you've had this source in you all along you just couldn't see it.
I don't mind the new age doctrine so much as the fact that he's masquerading his new age doctrine as Christian theology. When people look at him and assume that this is what Christianity is about and then look at me expecting the same thing, it set's me back a proverbial millennia in time to explain what it means to be a Christian.
Those who build on rocks often prize their stability, no matter how humble their shack may be.
Tell me how is the sand?
barny...work with me here
if we ridicule each other
how will we ever understand one another?
as a minister, it's your job to talk about these things
just remember, Jesus' message was love, not religion
the religious leaders of the day hated him for it
do you desire a more complicated message?
do you crave the comfort of being morally superior to your neighbor?
to be so pious is to miss the point of Jesus
pious judgement is exactly what is wrong with Christianity.
I don't believe that Jesus came to establish Christianity.
I certainly don't think he would be happy with the Christian church today.
I get the feeling that your view is quite different.
also... this is not new age doctrine
you perhaps have not understood him just yet
i'd recommend watching the videos again
keep in mind, this is no competition
consider that there might be some truth we can glean from listening to teachers like this...
even if we come from a different background
i dont see this man trying to win people over to the episcopal church
he aims to reform Christianity
he is passionate about the message of Love
the man knows his history
he speaks with intelligence and eloquence
makes some really amazing points in this video
I've been watching his videos and reading over his sight from the moment you sent me that VM, I also think you don't understand Jesus' message.
What sponge is offering is something very worldly rapped in spiritual garments. The core of his message is that all we have to do love one another and the core of that message is all we have to do. Don't get me wrong, love is vastly important but any secular humanist, Muslim, Jew, spiritualist and any other name under the sun can preach about this so long as they have a silver tongue.
Christianity offers so much more to an individual a Taylor Swift love song.
Finally, don't take my passion as sense of superiority. I am righteous, but not by my own hands and if I am morally superior then it nothing but a reflection of the one who sent me.
please try again
I dont know why you are bringing Taylor Swift into this
I was talking about Love, capital L
Not puppy love, not disney love...
...
"I am righteous but not by my own hands..."
really?
"...and if I am morally superior then it nothing but a reflection of the one who sent me."
this is scary
gives me the impression that you do indeed assume moral superiority here
this is a problem in the world
who wouldnt want to believe that God is on their side?
unfortunately, this line of thinking has been used to justify a lot of violence.
hate crimes, holy war, crusades,
fueled by passionate individuals claiming superiority
the cycle goes on
did you watch the video discussing Paul?
the whole video is worth your time
just curious to see what you think about his remarks at the end... starting around 6:45
I have no idea what you are going on about. He's defending his take on christanity and religion (not spiritualism), which he is very versed in. Your equating his views to violent acts that were done in history? I'm sorry man but you are completely off base here and all it sounds to me like is your just being anti religious and just as bias as fundementalists can be just on the other side of the coin.
Overlooking barnabas' self-righteous dogmatic and terribly outdated claims to attack the one opposing him (regardless of how unversed he might be) says something about you. And it's not good.