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Jewish intellectual Noam Chomsky discussing why many muslims are angry at the zionist controlled US

[video=youtube;O4YX7uhpInA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4YX7uhpInA[/video]
 
And some things never change. You can't blow up a cocopuff. I find the anti-semantic rants and sleezy websites posted by Muir offensive, and have said so in the past. The behavior is not new but we'll tolerated here. As sad as that seems, I do find the inclusive nature of the site to be more beneficial.

The best thing is that you can live up to the potential of the person you want to be without doing it at the expense of needing to suppress others. Everyone will just have to be responsible for their own honor.
 
And some things never change. You can't blow up a cocopuff. I find the anti-semantic rants and sleezy websites posted by Muir offensive, and have said so in the past. The behavior is not new but we'll tolerated here. As sad as that seems, I do find the inclusive nature of the site to be more beneficial.

The best thing is that you can live up to the potential of the person you want to be without doing it at the expense of needing to suppress others. Everyone will just have to be responsible for their own honor.

No information from you i see

Do you have any information?

Or just insults?

Do you even have a clue about what's going on?

I find it interesting why people like you are so afraid and threatened by information
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Israel_relations

A history of Iranian-Israeli relations that currently calls for Israel's destruction. Iran was the second Muslim country to accept Israel. Things have gone downhill. Obama wants to help Iran, and is currently allowing IRGC to fly into Syria to help the murderous Assad. Iranian boots on the ground north of Israel is really having Israel's back. One of the reasons ISIS is doing so well is because Assad is allowing them to topple his enemies.

Israel actually helped Iran in the Iran-Iraq War. Now Obama wants to help a nation that makes stamps for people that kill Israelis.

Does attaining your agenda come before human rights? Anti-semitism?
 
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And some things never change. You can't blow up a cocopuff. I find the anti-semantic rants and sleezy websites posted by Muir offensive, and have said so in the past. The behavior is not new but we'll tolerated here. As sad as that seems, I do find the inclusive nature of the site to be more beneficial.

The best thing is that you can live up to the potential of the person you want to be without doing it at the expense of needing to suppress others. Everyone will just have to be responsible for their own honor.

He should be banned, or not allowed in political and religious conversations. He seems fine elsewhere. I personally grow weary of the BS.
 
And some things never change. You can't blow up a cocopuff. I find the anti-semantic rants and sleezy websites posted by Muir offensive, and have said so in the past. The behavior is not new but we'll tolerated here. As sad as that seems, I do find the inclusive nature of the site to be more beneficial.

The best thing is that you can live up to the potential of the person you want to be without doing it at the expense of needing to suppress others. Everyone will just have to be responsible for their own honor.

If it were rants ans sleazy websites about another group, for example, Blacks, Muslims or North American Indians, would it be allowed here? If not, why is the antisemitic stuff tolerated? How is it different?
 
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If it were rants ans sleazy websites about another group, for example, Blacks, Muslims or North American Indians, would it be allowed here? If not, why is the antisemitic stuff tolerated? How is it different?

The clips i've posted of people speaking are all jews

Its jews speaking about jews

Why is it so hard for you to listen to them?

Also the racism that is going on is that against the arabs and others in the region who ARE SEMITES

It is the palestineans and iraqis and syrians who are being killed in their droves by the zionists

yet i hear nothing said about that by you pro-zionists

I guess you must think that only jewish lives matter (therefore you are racists)

Why shouldn't someone on the forum be allowed to speak up in defence of the oppressed?
 
He should be banned, or not allowed in political and religious conversations. He seems fine elsewhere. I personally grow weary of the BS.

You should be banned for trying to promote violence against the saudis and palestineans and iranians

You have spoken about using the 'rod' against them....ie you are calling for war

You are clamouring for violence and death

What a bloodthirsty little man you are

And you call yourself a 'christian'......what a joke

Love your neighbour indeed!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Israel_relations

A history of Iranian-Israeli relations that currently calls for Israel's destruction. Iran was the second Muslim country to accept Israel. Things have gone downhill. Obama wants to help Iran, and is currently allowing IRGC to fly into Syria to help the murderous Assad. Iranian boots on the ground north of Israel is really having Israel's back. One of the reasons ISIS is doing so well is because Assad is allowing them to topple his enemies.

Israel actually helped Iran in the Iran-Iraq War. Now Obama wants to help a nation that makes stamps for people that kill Israelis.

Does attaining your agenda come before human rights? Anti-semitism?

No ISIS is doing well because it is supported by israel and the US zionists

It is now official...it has been revealed in declassified pentagon papers

Your information is out of date

See my post below for a link to the papers
 
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-zio...merica/5450609

The “Zionisation of America”

How US Democracy was Ditched in order to Re-Draw the Middle East for Israel's Colonisation of the West Bank

By Anthony Bellchambers
Global Research, May 19, 2015


A total of $56.73 million has been paid over the last three decades, to ensure that the U.S. Congress is populated only by those who accept the agenda of the American Zionist Council.
This, according to the official record, was the amount paid by the American Zionist Council from 1978-2014 to ensure the selection of its approved congressional candidates in order that the House of Representatives and the Senate would support the Political Zionist agenda that includes the illegal colonisation of the Occupied West Bank.
This is to frustrate the will of the UN and the international community, including the European Union. The Netanyahu government objective being to create a ‘Greater Israel’ and the compulsory ‘transfer’ of all indigenous Arabs from out of the former land of Palestine. This goes directly against the provisions of the British Mandate government’s Balfour Declaration – upon which the state of Israel was established, in 1948, under pressure from the AZC (the forerunner of AIPAC) – which explicitly states:
’it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine ….”
Netanyahu’s Plan is not only the Zionisation of all the land from the Jordan to the Mediterranean in order to construct a ‘Greater Israel’ but, ultimately – and dangerously – to hold a nuclear threat over the adjoining countries of Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and the Gulf states – a policy colluded in by a U.S. House of Representatives that is apparently more interested in luxury villa holidays in Tel Aviv’s Herzlia rather than in freedom, justice, civil rights and the American public they are supposed to represent.
For the documented list of individual payments to Members of Congress, go to: http://www.wrmea.org/pdf/2014pac_cha...tobertotal.pdf
 
Investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed has published the pentagon papers that show that ISIS has been used by the west as atool to dislodge Assad (as i've been saying here from the start)

https://medium.com/insurge-intellige...t-b99ad7a29092

Pentagon report predicted West’s support for Islamist rebels would create ISIS

Anti-ISIS coalition knowingly sponsored violent extremists to ‘isolate’ Assad, rollback ‘Shia expansion’

by Nafeez Ahmed​
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A declassified secret US government document obtained by the conservative public interest law firm, Judicial Watch, shows that Western governments deliberately allied with al-Qaeda and other Islamist extremist groups to topple Syrian dictator Bashir al-Assad.
The document reveals that in coordination with the Gulf states and Turkey, the West intentionally sponsored violent Islamist groups to destabilize Assad, and that these “supporting powers” desired the emergence of a “Salafist Principality” in Syria to “isolate the Syrian regime.”
According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of this strategy, and warned that it could destabilize Iraq. Despite anticipating that Western, Gulf state and Turkish support for the “Syrian opposition” — which included al-Qaeda in Iraq — could lead to the emergence of an ‘Islamic State’ in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the document provides no indication of any decision to reverse the policy of support to the Syrian rebels. On the contrary, the emergence of an al-Qaeda affiliated “Salafist Principality” as a result is described as a strategic opportunity to isolate Assad.





Hypocrisy

The revelations contradict the official line of Western governments on their policies in Syria, and raise disturbing questions about secret Western support for violent extremists abroad, while using the burgeoning threat of terror to justify excessive mass surveillance and crackdowns on civil liberties at home.
Among the batch of documents obtained by Judicial Watch through a federal lawsuit, released earlier this week, is a US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document then classified as “secret,” dated 12th August 2012.
The DIA provides military intelligence in support of planners, policymakers and operations for the US Department of Defense and intelligence community.
So far, media reporting has focused on the evidence that the Obama administration knew of arms supplies from a Libyan terrorist stronghold to rebels in Syria.
Some outlets have reported the US intelligence community’s internal prediction of the rise of ISIS. Yet none have accurately acknowledged the disturbing details exposing how the West knowingly fostered a sectarian, al-Qaeda-driven rebellion in Syria.
Charles Shoebridge, a former British Army and Metropolitan Police counter-terrorism intelligence officer, said:
“Given the political leanings of the organisation that obtained these documents, it’s unsurprising that the main emphasis given to them thus far has been an attempt to embarrass Hilary Clinton regarding what was known about the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi in 2012. However, the documents also contain far less publicized revelations that raise vitally important questions of the West’s governments and media in their support of Syria’s rebellion.”​

The West’s Islamists

The newly declassified DIA document from 2012 confirms that the main component of the anti-Assad rebel forces by this time comprised Islamist insurgents affiliated to groups that would lead to the emergence of ISIS. Despite this, these groups were to continue receiving support from Western militaries and their regional allies.
Noting that “the Salafist [sic], the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI [al-Qaeda in Iraq] are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria,” the document states that “the West, Gulf countries, and Turkey support the opposition,” while Russia, China and Iran “support the [Assad] regime.”
The 7-page DIA document states that al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), the precursor to the ‘Islamic State in Iraq,’ (ISI) which became the ‘Islamic State in Iraq and Syria,’ “supported the Syrian opposition from the beginning, both ideologically and through the media.”
The formerly secret Pentagon report notes that the “rise of the insurgency in Syria” has increasingly taken a “sectarian direction,” attracting diverse support from Sunni “religious and tribal powers” across the region.
In a section titled ‘The Future Assumptions of the Crisis,’ the DIA report predicts that while Assad’s regime will survive, retaining control over Syrian territory, the crisis will continue to escalate “into proxy war.”
The document also recommends the creation of “safe havens under international sheltering, similar to what transpired in Libya when Benghazi was chosen as the command centre for the temporary government.”
In Libya, anti-Gaddafi rebels, most of whom were al-Qaeda affiliated militias, were protected by NATO ‘safe havens’ (aka ‘no fly zones’).


‘Supporting powers want’ ISIS entity

In a strikingly prescient prediction, the Pentagon document explicitly forecasts the probable declaration of “an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria.”
Nevertheless, “Western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey are supporting these efforts” by Syrian “opposition forces” fighting to “control the eastern areas (Hasaka and Der Zor), adjacent to Western Iraqi provinces (Mosul and Anbar)”:
“… there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”​
The secret Pentagon document thus provides extraordinary confirmation that the US-led coalition currently fighting ISIS, had three years ago welcomed the emergence of an extremist “Salafist Principality” in the region as a way to undermine Assad, and block off the strategic expansion of Iran. Crucially, Iraq is labeled as an integral part of this “Shia expansion.”
The establishment of such a “Salafist Principality” in eastern Syria, the DIA document asserts, is “exactly” what the “supporting powers to the [Syrian] opposition want.” Earlier on, the document repeatedly describes those “supporting powers” as “the West, Gulf countries, and Turkey.”
Further on, the document reveals that Pentagon analysts were acutely aware of the dire risks of this strategy, yet ploughed ahead anyway.
The establishment of such a “Salafist Principality” in eastern Syria, it says, would create “the ideal atmosphere for AQI to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi.” Last summer, ISIS conquered Mosul in Iraq, and just this month has also taken control of Ramadi.
Such a quasi-state entity will provide:
“… a renewed momentum under the presumption of unifying the jihad among Sunni Iraq and Syria, and the rest of the Sunnis in the Arab world against what it considers one enemy. ISI could also declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of territory.”​
The 2012 DIA document is an Intelligence Information Report (IIR), not a “finally evaluated intelligence” assessment, but its contents are vetted before distribution. The report was circulated throughout the US intelligence community, including to the State Department, Central Command, the Department of Homeland Security, the CIA, FBI, among other agencies.
In response to my questions about the strategy, the British government simply denied the Pentagon report’s startling revelations of deliberate Western sponsorship of violent extremists in Syria. A British Foreign Office spokesperson said:
“AQ and ISIL are proscribed terrorist organisations. The UK opposes all forms of terrorism. AQ, ISIL, and their affiliates pose a direct threat to the UK’s national security. We are part of a military and political coalition to defeat ISIL in Iraq and Syria, and are working with international partners to counter the threat from AQ and other terrorist groups in that region. In Syria we have always supported those moderate opposition groups who oppose the tyranny of Assad and the brutality of the extremists.”​
The DIA did not respond to request for comment.


Strategic asset for regime-change

Security analyst Shoebridge, however, who has tracked Western support for Islamist terrorists in Syria since the beginning of the war, pointed out that the secret Pentagon intelligence report exposes fatal contradictions at the heart of official pronunciations:
“Throughout the early years of the Syria crisis, the US and UK governments, and almost universally the West’s mainstream media, promoted Syria’s rebels as moderate, liberal, secular, democratic, and therefore deserving of the West’s support. Given that these documents wholly undermine this assessment, it’s significant that the West’s media has now, despite their immense significance, almost entirely ignored them.”​
According to Brad Hoff, a former US Marine who served during the early years of the Iraq War and as a 9/11 first responder at the Marine Corps Headquarters Battalion in Quantico from 2000 to 2004, the just released Pentagon report for the first time provides stunning affirmation that:
“US intelligence predicted the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), but instead of clearly delineating the group as an enemy, the report envisions the terror group as a US strategic asset.”​
Hoff, who is managing editor of Levant Report—  an online publication run by Texas-based educators who have direct experience of the Middle East — points out that the DIA document “matter-of-factly” states that the rise of such an extremist Salafist political entity in the region offers a “tool for regime change in Syria.”
The DIA intelligence report shows, he said, that the rise of ISIS only became possible in the context of the Syrian insurgency — “there is no mention of US troop withdrawal from Iraq as a catalyst for Islamic State’s rise, which is the contention of innumerable politicians and pundits.” The report demonstrates that:
“The establishment of a ‘Salafist Principality’ in Eastern Syria is ‘exactly’ what the external powers supporting the opposition want (identified as ‘the West, Gulf Countries, and Turkey’) in order to weaken the Assad government.”​
The rise of a Salafist quasi-state entity that might expand into Iraq, and fracture that country, was therefore clearly foreseen by US intelligence as likely — but nevertheless strategically useful — blowback from the West’s commitment to “isolating Syria.”


Complicity

Critics of the US-led strategy in the region have repeatedly raised questions about the role of coalition allies in intentionally providing extensive support to Islamist terrorist groups in the drive to destabilize the Assad regime in Syria.
The conventional wisdom is that the US government did not retain sufficient oversight on the funding to anti-Assad rebel groups, which was supposed to be monitored and vetted to ensure that only ‘moderate’ groups were supported.
However, the newly declassified Pentagon report proves unambiguously that years before ISIS launched its concerted offensive against Iraq, the US intelligence community was fully aware that Islamist militants constituted the core of Syria’s sectarian insurgency.
Despite that, the Pentagon continued to support the Islamist insurgency, even while anticipating the probability that doing so would establish an extremist Salafi stronghold in Syria and Iraq.
As Shoebridge told me, “The documents show that not only did the US government at the latest by August 2012 know the true extremist nature and likely outcome of Syria’s rebellion” — namely, the emergence of ISIS — “but that this was considered an advantage for US foreign policy. This also suggests a decision to spend years in an effort to deliberately mislead the West’s public, via a compliant media, into believing that Syria’s rebellion was overwhelmingly ‘moderate.’”
Annie Machon, a former MI5 intelligence officer who blew the whistle in the 1990s on MI6 funding of al-Qaeda to assassinate Libya’s former leader Colonel Gaddafi, similarly said of the revelations:
“This is no surprise to me. Within individual countries there are always multiple intelligence agencies with competing agendas.”​
She explained that MI6’s Libya operation in 1996, which resulted in the deaths of innocent people, “happened at precisely the time when MI5 was setting up a new section to investigate al-Qaeda.”
This strategy was repeated on a grand scale in the 2011 NATO intervention in Libya, said Machon, where the CIA and MI6 were:
“… supporting the very same Libyan groups, resulting in a failed state, mass murder, displacement and anarchy. So the idea that elements of the American military-security complex have enabled the development of ISIS after their failed attempt to get NATO to once again ‘intervene’ is part of an established pattern. And they remain indifferent to the sheer scale of human suffering that is unleashed as a result of such game-playing.”​

Divide and rule

Several US government officials have conceded that their closest allies in the anti-ISIS coalition were funding violent extremist Islamist groups that became integral to ISIS.
US Vice President Joe Biden, for instance, admitted last year that Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Turkey had funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to Islamist rebels in Syria that metamorphosed into ISIS.
But he did not admit what this internal Pentagon document demonstrates — that the entire covert strategy was sanctioned and supervised by the US, Britain, France, Israel and other Western powers.
The strategy appears to fit a policy scenario identified by a recent US Army-commissioned RAND Corp report.
The report, published four years before the DIA document, called for the US “to capitalise on the Shia-Sunni conflict by taking the side of the conservative Sunni regimes in a decisive fashion and working with them against all Shiite empowerment movements in the Muslim world.”
The US would need to contain “Iranian power and influence” in the Gulf by “shoring up the traditional Sunni regimes in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan.” Simultaneously, the US must maintain “a strong strategic relationship with the Iraqi Shiite government” despite its Iran alliance.
The RAND report confirmed that the “divide and rule” strategy was already being deployed “to create divisions in the jihadist camp. Today in Iraq such a strategy is being used at the tactical level.”
The report observed that the US was forming “temporary alliances” with al-Qaeda affiliated “nationalist insurgent groups” that have fought the US for four years in the form of “weapons and cash.” Although these nationalists “have cooperated with al-Qaeda against US forces,” they are now being supported to exploit “the common threat that al-Qaeda now poses to both parties.”
The 2012 DIA document, however, further shows that while sponsoring purportedly former al-Qaeda insurgents in Iraq to counter al-Qaeda, Western governments were simultaneously arming al-Qaeda insurgents in Syria.
The revelation from an internal US intelligence document that the very US-led coalition supposedly fighting ‘Islamic State’ today, knowingly created ISIS in the first place, raises troubling questions about recent government efforts to justify the expansion of state anti-terror powers.
In the wake of the rise of ISIS, intrusive new measures to combat extremism including mass surveillance, the Orwellian ‘prevent duty’ and even plans to enable government censorship of broadcasters, are being pursued on both sides of the Atlantic, much of which disproportionately targets activists, journalists and ethnic minorities, especially Muslims.
Yet the new Pentagon report reveals that, contrary to Western government claims, the primary cause of the threat comes from their own deeply misguided policies of secretly sponsoring Islamist terrorism for dubious geopolitical purposes.



Dr Nafeez Ahmed is an investigative journalist, bestselling author and international security scholar. A former Guardian writer, he writes the ‘System Shift’ column for VICE’s Motherboard, and is also a columnist for Middle East Eye. He is the winner of a 2015 Project Censored Award, known as the ‘Alternative Pulitzer Prize’, for Outstanding Investigative Journalism for his Guardian work, and was selected in the Evening Standard’s ‘Power 1,000’ most globally influential Londoners.
Nafeez has also written for The Independent, Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, The Scotsman, Foreign Policy, The Atlantic, Quartz, Prospect, New Statesman, Le Monde diplomatique, New Internationalist, Counterpunch, Truthout, among others. He is the author of A User’s Guide to the Crisis of Civilization: And How to Save It (2010), and the scifi thriller novel ZERO POINT, among other books. His work on the root causes and covert operations linked to international terrorism officially contributed to the 9/11 Commission and the 7/7 Coroner’s Inquest.



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I have to come to the defence of [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] here. Although I do not agree with a lot of what he proposes and I do find some of it harmful, I don't believe that he is an anti-semite. His comments do come off that way sometimes but if you read what he really says then it is mostly against Zionism and not Jews themselves. People like to equate being against Zionism as being anti-semitic. It isn't. They are two separate issues.

I feel greatly for the Jewish people and even though I believe Zionism is harmful (particularly to the Jews themselves), I understand why they are always feeling like they have to be in a defensive position and like they are always under threat. I believe Israel's policies amplify the threat and cause more harm to Jewish people. Jews have a right to live in peace and safety, just like everybody else, including Palestinians. We are really all the same people and fear and loathing turn us into enemies. It's sad really.

The one group that I believe is the most harmful and hypocritical in this whole thing are Christian Zionists. Their motives are not about the well-being of the Jewish people but about their interpretation of the Bible. I prefer an enemy that is honest about it than somebody who is pretending to be my friend.

My opinion on this is probably not going to be too popular with some on here but likely their opinions aren't too popular with me and they probably don't care. That's just the way it goes.
 
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I have to come to the defence of @muir here. Although I do not agree with a lot of what he proposes and I do find some of it harmful, I don't believe that he is an anti-semite. His comments do come off that way sometimes but if you read what he really says then it is mostly against Zionism and not Jews themselves. People like to equate being against Zionism as being anti-semitic. It isn't. They are two separate issues.

I feel greatly for the Jewish people and even though I believe Zionism is harmful (particularly to the Jews themselves), I understand why they are always feeling like they have to be in a defensive position and like they are always under threat. I believe Israel's policies amplify the threat and cause more harm to Jewish people. Jews have a right to live in peace and safety, just like everybody else, including Palestinians. We are really all the same people and fear and loathing turn us into enemies. It's sad really.

The one group that I believe is the most harmful and hypocritical in this whole thing are Christian Zionists. Their motives are not about the well-being of the Jewish people but about their interpretation of the Bible. I prefer an enemy that is honest about it than somebody who is pretending to be my friend.

My opinion on this is probably not going to be too popular with some on here but likely their opinions aren't too popular with me and they probably don't care. That's just the way it goes.

Thanks for your refreshing honesty

Its often said that not all zionists are jews and not all jews are zionists

I have tried to stress in my posts that zionism is a POLITICAL movement

Those that are familiar with my posts will know that i do not believe that the cabal steering the political zionist movements are jews

I also want to be clear that if the jews in israel were the ones being persecuted by a more powerful neighbour then i'd be speaking out in defence of them but at the moment they are the oppressors; i also think they are culturally brainwashed to believe various myths the same as everyone else is

It's my belief that the future of the israeli jews is only going to be secured by making peace with their muslim neighbours

It's also my belief that the people stoking the wars (ie the political zionists) do not want peace because the cabal behind the political zionist movement are playing a global game of chess in which both the palestineans and the israeli jews are simply pawns
 
Anyone need a Kleenex? Yet one more thread derailed. In all consistencies, it's something I expect here. It always happens, time and time again. I frankly don't read most of his posts because they are so repetitive. Free world, though I wish some people would stay out of the hard work I put in making a history and a point. Nothing I have shown and nothing I have said matters any more here. It's been magically changed again. I wonder if anyone could even outline the points I was making to share with others from viable sources. Make peace with what? I'm there for Israel. I'll always be there for Israel. Those that insultingly built Dome of the Rock where the Jewish Temple was insult my intelligence. The Jews show greatness to even allow it's existence. Try that in Iran or Saudi Arabia. That's what it will take for me to forgive their sins. Who do they think they are? Number one on the hate Jews list, and Obama wants a nuclear accord with them. Obama is an insult to this country.
 
Anyone need a Kleenex? Yet one more thread derailed. In all consistencies, it's something I expect here. It always happens, time and time again. I frankly don't read most of his posts because they are so repetitive. Free world, though I wish some people would stay out of the hard work I put in making a history and a point. Nothing I have shown and nothing I have said matters any more here. It's been magically changed again. I wonder if anyone could even outline the points I was making to share with others from viable sources. Make peace with what? I'm there for Israel. I'll always be there for Israel. Those that insultingly built Dome of the Rock where the Jewish Temple was insult my intelligence. The Jews show greatness to even allow it's existence. Try that in Iran or Saudi Arabia. That's what it will take for me to forgive their sins. Who do they think they are? Number one on the hate Jews list, and Obama wants a nuclear accord with them. Obama is an insult to this country.

You are the slave of the zionists

They spy on you

They want your guns

They've already tried to take your guns and they haven't given up yet eg feinstein

They're carrying out military exercises in your country practicising disarming christians like you and getting ready to declare martial law and disarm gun owning christians

They control your banks and are destroying your economy leaving your countrymen impoverished

They're going to flush your country down the toilet

It's going to be such a shock to you when all this happens

That's the day you will realise that the enemy of your government was never the muslims...it was you....it's always been you.....it's you they want to control
 
Go spread your pollution and try to stir up strife somewhere else. You are not welcome here.
 
Criticize Zionism: "thank you for your refreshing honesty"

Stating that Jews have it hard in the rest of the Middle East: "you are a slave of the zionists"

I guess honesty has varying degrees of freshness.
 
I shake the dust from off my feet to you, [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION]. Ignorance is known by the company it keeps.
 
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Criticize Zionism: "thank you for your refreshing honesty"

Stating that Jews have it hard in the rest of the Middle East: "you are a slave of the zionists"

I guess honesty has varying degrees of freshness.

more insults and still no information

You have no knowledge....no information

All you have are your opinions based on your prejudices which themselves are not built on foundations on information

you are a slave of the zionists

Answer me this...who owns the federal reserve bank that controls the US nations wealth?