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    I agree with most of that, at least on the mother nature front. What you said can literally be somewhat mind-blowing

    Darwinism applied to social constructs can be heavily manipulated though to ensure survival of those that took perceived initiative and leverage to sustain power, and to some degree, survival

    And again, all of that is highly subjective

    It would imply that humans are somewhat cannibalistic with their decisioning as to who has a higher chance of survival and who does not

    Sort of playing god to a degree, and who gods the gods
     
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    Cons and hackers find loopholes in this every single day

    And corruption exists, too
     
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    Still not quite sure who is the least feel-y as we got a three-way tie at the moment, but whittling this down to INFJ, ISFJ and ESFP. All three are status quo types.

    --ESFP are driven by highly transactional, real-time interactions (Se) which are backed by highly subjective personal values (Fi)--sounds like a hot mess

    --INFJ definitely has a more a cold interior (not a bad thing), but more willing to imagine different futures to raise the status quo. Feelings expressed though can be turbulent and outright cold if pushed to a limit

    --ISFJ seems the most stable of the three deferring to successful implementation of things in the past. From my experience, whether or not ISFJ is the most feely or not, they do not make a spectacle of it as much as the other two

    Would probably lean towards ISFJ as a personal opinion. To further back it up with Enneagram, ESFPs are like the stereotype of type 4. And I personally know a few INFJs who are type 4s. I have never once encountered an ISFJ who is a type 4
     
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    I see ENxJs that do this more often.

    Recently had a falling out with an ENFJ friend, long time friend too, for these very same kind of notion. What started as an argument on the importance of phenotypical differences verses genotypical differences among different species[we were watching a Richard Dawkins video], turned into a full blown shouting match over social Darwinism. I left him because it revealed unabashed racism- I basically, unintentionally, exposed him as a Nazi-like racist in front of everybody. And I didn't like that. So it was goodbye after that.
     
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    Sorry to hear that. Yes, I agree with the above statement ENxJs to a degree
     
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    Guess I'd have to take on the risk of the occasional INFJ 4-ness to get exposure to more intellectualism

    Back to golden pair
     
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    For Ss and Gs--Jung typing himself

     
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    I would say they are more often Type 3 or 7. A lot of ESFPs are driven by a need to be liked. This is not very indicative of a Type 4, or at least not as much as a Type 3.

    How about an INFJ Type 5? Could this be your happy middle ground?

    Strong on Ti, usually slightly subdued (though not unheathy) Fe.

    Note that very interestingly, I don't think ISFJ Type 5 are nearly as common as INFJ Type 5. I imagine that most ISFJs would be Type 1.
     
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    Lol. I'm confused. Are feelings such "icky" things?
     
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    INTP then.

    Jung uses a great deal of Ti.
     
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    Does 4-ness = messy? Is 5-ness better than 4-ness?
     
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    No type is 'better' than any other type and I don't think Type 4 is 'messy' necessarily. But I suppose Type 4 will have a tendency to relate to feeling more openly.

    Interestingly enough, it is usually the Type 2 (more than Type 4) that can overwhelm me with expressions of feeling sometimes, in real life that is. Any thoughts on Type 2, @ClevelandINTP ?
     
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    ISFJs are totally enneagram 1 and 2s--you're right
     
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    Type 4 or Type 7s fit the bill of needing to be like to some extent. I can totally see ESFPs as type 7s

    I was leaning on the Type 4 type as it's more dramatic and self-absorbed
     
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    I really don't have as much of a problem with type 2 behavior as long as it's not controlling. I want to be loved, so yeah, that's fine
     
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    Most of the messiness I've seen in relationships has been from 4-ness

    4-ness can be compounded into further messiness with impulsivity of 7-ness

    Personal experience and subjective preference obviously
     
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    I am pro-feelings. I am admittedly not very good with them nor take much interest in showing them. I do need them and like the way they make me feel, though. Much more of a personal preference for Fe than Fi

    Too many feelings take me away from more core self, Ti-Ne, and not that I don't need development outside of that, it's just that keeping that part of me sharp is important to me

    You wouldn't believe the exhaustion feelings put on to an INTP
     
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    Lol. Those damned feelings.
     
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    Understandable.
     
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    To further explain that exhaustion, we experience feelings much differently. I sometimes feel sterile to them. Sterile in the sense that I don’t feel compelled to react to them in the moment. So imagine if you go through life only having to manage very little emotions, and then when others with much more emotions dump them in your direction. We’re not emotionally needy and that can be a bit much

    My ex used to think I was cold or didn’t have emotions. To which my response was always that I manage them. I’ll sit on them for a few days, rationalize them and literally put them in the act or do not act bin

    I’ve tried a relationship before going all in on my emotions and having them out before internal deliberation—it goes much better managing them on your own as much as you can within reason
     
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