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    @noisebloom Dude, you totally get it. 100% But we’re liberal Marxist commies, racist sexist Nazis, or DINOs for daring to challenge the polarization that threatens the health of our democracy and is leading to democratic backsliding.

    Bravo!
     
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    Yeah there's like a half a dozen cities rioting and they waffle on responses.
    https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlene...ief-ban-use-of-tear-gas-protests-15320847.php
    apparently they broke this ban and used teargas anyways in Seattle 3 days later. Side effect of doing what you have to do or side effect of having your pay slashed and not giving a shit anymore?
    As long as Trump can keep finding federal charges to stick the violent protesters the numbers will slowly dwindle, much faster if he can get Antifa classified as organized crime and prosecute them under Rico.

    The violent part of the protests will stop when enough of them are rotting in federal prisons and then the peaceful people can continue on doing whatever they like :)
     
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    Unless one of the violent protesters crossed state lines or the crime took place on federal land, they do not have jurisdiction to prosecute or arrest.
     
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    Yes, that is true. It's why the justice department can't get all of them. Unless they use Rico because antifa organizes across state lines.
     
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    @Reason I'm just wondering - do you think that federalism is working for the United States?

    It seems to me, from the outside looking in, that people look to the President and expect him to behave as if he were the leader of a unitary state, and that this is the de facto reality of the country.
     
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    No comment...
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    Good luck with doing RICO. More than half of those guys were probably smart enough to use a VPN to cloak their real IP address while on social media. Sounds like that trick would be big huge mess that no investigator would bother to unless they had a big shot mob boss to take down, piles of drugs on the table for the media to take pictures, etc. Except these are all everyday knuckleheads that don’t mean a shit to anyone. Sorry, but I don’t see the federal gov’t having their hearts in this. Only reason they care is because they don’t want to piss Trump off. They need to stroke his cock every now and then.

    The Wire TV show is so incredibly accurate, it’s ridiculous.
     
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    Insurance and business lobbies would be pressuring them to prosecute. Also, since the riots are having a negative impact on democrat polls, there might be less foot dragging.
     
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    Would be? The “riots” are happening right now. So are they doing this at this very moment or not? If so, who specifically is specifically doing it?

    You do realize that a lot of those lobbies are libertarian-bent and funded by the Koch brothers. They probably would never go for the feds overstepping their boundaries, even if there are short term losses to businesses. They would be pressuring the local DA to prosecute. Not US attorneys for fucks sake.
     
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    I said insurance companies.
    It's tiring when people don't read.
     
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    You never said insurance companies
    :tongueout:
     
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    I assume you're asking if federalism does more good than harm? I think so. The states can run things in their own ways and run themselves into the ground without pulling the other states down with them to the same extent they would if they had to all agree on a singular course for all 50 states.
     
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    I suppose, yeah.

    It's also interesting to see how legal reforms (e.g. legalisation of cannabis) can sweep through the states while bypassing the deadlock of Congress.

    I just don't know to what extent people actually look to their governors, or if that's a level of leadership they care about aside from the President. Recent issues seem highly 'national', despite most of the authority (correct me if I'm wrong) for tackling them being vested in the states.
     
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    No I think looking to the president to handle local affairs is a low information voter think to do. It misunderstands the role of state and national government in the US.

    It's like getting mad at the Queen when parliament passes an unpopular law.
     
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    This is the best way of calling someone an idiot I've heard all day.
     
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    I can read perfectly fine. Can you? You said insurance and business lobbies. In essence, lobbyists like perhaps the Chamber of Commerce... Perhaps you should read your own writing.
     
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    The problem is that much of the norms surrounding public health look to the executive branch of the federal gov’t for guidance and coordination. Trump’s administration failed tremendously in this regard. If he wanted to take a hands off approach to everything, he should have made this clear on the day after he won the election instead of waiting until a crisis happened to tell everyone they’re on their own.
     
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    That's not what I mean but that's a discussion for another time.

    tl;dr explanation: Not having the time or ability to look into things is not the same as being unable to think clearly.
     
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