He is ignorant.
He tries to use "studies" to justify his social darwinist views... ignoring information of a contrary nature that would discredit him.
Don't attack him; attack his argument(s). It's much more effective.
He is ignorant.
He tries to use "studies" to justify his social darwinist views... ignoring information of a contrary nature that would discredit him.
Don't attack him; attack his argument(s). It's much more effective.
Please report my posts if you have a problem.
Until then, I don't need you to nanny me and teach me manners.
You have to be the most ignorant person on this forum. Seriously. Your posts are lol worthy.
Don't pretend that you actually care about third world children, or anyone else for that matter.
Go ahead and post all the skewed data you like. Where are those studies you mentioned, btw?
Who paid for those studies to be conducted? Who conducted them?
So you think it's a choice that 8 yr olds in third world countries are working 12 hour shifts for pennies a day to make you a pair of shoes?
Because the country you live in probably put their country in the position in which entire families starve if children don't slave away?
Hey, at least it prevents them from being sold as prostitutes though. I guess that's better off in the world of Bickelz..
He is ignorant.
He tries to use "studies" to justify his social darwinist views... ignoring information of a contrary nature that would discredit him.
I find it offensive and insulting for someone to justify the misery of an entire population of people because it suits their misguided philosophies.
Views like the ones he touts are what is wrong with this planet.
Utterly destructive and unsustainable. No, I don't respect his opinion at all.
It isn't?Hey, at least it prevents them from being sold as prostitutes though. I guess that's better off in the world of Bickelz..
Having your country ravaged by outside multinational companies so that no jobs can realistically survive except extreme wage-slavery to produce cheap products with your country's resources that you will never use will never help you "rise above" the current situation. When you don't have access to your own resources or the products they produce, you have no hope.
Really? So working for money doesn't make you richer?
My concern is for the exploitation of people.... and then the culture of destruction and unsustainability that is inevitably perpetuated by that.No, you're the one who is prolonging the suffering of these people who are in poverty. The solution is to work; to produce something that people value. It's a starting off point.
It goes along with the cliched statement "give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Third world countries need to bring themselves out of poverty. They need the first world to invest in them. We can't just give out money forever hoping that things get better. Work for many of these children will lead to better conditions overall, that's what globalization is about. But go ahead, argue with my points that are backed up by virtually everybody in developmental economics. I mean shit, I even quoted Paul Krugman for chrissake. I disagree with almost everything he writes in his NYT op-ed, yet we agree on child labor policy.
I think that's a good way of putting it.Having your country ravaged by outside multinational companies so that no jobs can realistically survive except extreme wage-slavery to produce cheap products with your country's resources that you will never use will never help you "rise above" the current situation. When you don't have access to your own resources or the products they produce, you have no hope.
What does this statement have to do with what you quoted me saying in the slightest?Really? So working for money doesn't make you richer?
The situation isn't as clear as you seem to want to make it. I got an idea, go find a minimum wage job and live on your own for awhile and then tell everyone what you think of the state of the world for the poor.
My concern is for the exploitation of people.... and then the culture of destruction and unsustainability that is inevitably perpetuated by that.
Corporations go to these places because they can pay the workers next to nothing and there are no regulations to ensure they are treated humanely because that would cost them time and money.
Nobody is doing any of those people a favor by giving them a life of hard labor. First world countries created these problems for them in the first place.
What does this statement have to do with what you quoted me saying in the slightest?
Having your country ravaged by outside multinational companies so that no jobs can realistically survive except extreme wage-slavery to produce cheap products with your country's resources that you will never use will never help you "rise above" the current situation.
I have worked minimum wage and I worked full time at a $10/hr job this summer. I haven't worked since and I'm supporting myself off of that $3500 I made. And even if I did what you suggested, that wouldn't mean that I know how poor people are living. Even the poorest people in the united states are far better off than people in the third world. Also, the job that I worked in over the summer was for a painting company that almost exclusively hired first generation immigrants and people that didn't speak a whole lot of English. The conversations that I did have with them about government yielded their opinion of it: they don't want any help. They just want to work and improve their conditions for their families and provide a better future for their children.
OK, OK. A number of people seem to have jumped on the "let's bash on bickelz" bandwagon. But, according to him and his sources, the whole child labor situation should work itself out within the next 50 years or so.
Does anyone else have any viable solutions for the people of the Third World? What do you propose we do?
This is clearly not a question of sympathy, as all the sympathy in the world on its own won't accomplish anything unless something is done about it.
Improve the safety and use of nuclear power vs fossil fuels. Fund and research alternative sources.
Promote electric vehicles - capitalism has intentionally killed the development of the electric car
Promote groups like UNICEF and the Peace Corps over military service - offer the same benefits for serving in the Peace Corps as you would for military service for instance.