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North Korea, war?
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I do not want to see war. I also do not want to watch North Korea testing nuclear weapons and delivery systems; stating they will use them against the US. It is little different from having some of the leaders in Iran stating they are going to destroy Israel. North Korea and Iran test nuclear weapons and delivery systems together. Have been for many years.
With Russia and China comes responsibilities, as with the US. The big guys don't have to do anything but help their allies....if there are no threats and misgivings. The world would be a much safer place without certain people risking wars with their threats. Some folk need a reality check. It is much wiser for their allies to stop the madness themselves.
With Russia and China comes responsibilities, as with the US. The big guys don't have to do anything but help their allies....if there are no threats and misgivings. The world would be a much safer place without certain people risking wars with their threats. Some folk need a reality check. It is much wiser for their allies to stop the madness themselves.
False, completely false equivalence, but then there is no other to defend Trump.
come on, you have to have some basis for that, post a link to something...I am not saying that it can't be true but don't just leave us hanging.
It would be above top secret. There is simply no way to prove it. However reasonable thinking can lead you to the same conclusion. We know how powerful lasers are that we have seen tested from equipped YALs. We know how much distortion they would encounter in the atmosphere and how much power those same lasers would loose as a result. We know spy cameras can see dimes from space.... put two and two together.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1
Russia hacked the US presidential election. Nuke 'em!!!
Or maybe the CIA, or another government agency, did in need for a scape goat, leaving false clues: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/03/08/wikileaks-dumps-cias-hacking-tools
I doubt that NK hacked Sony: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...sm-experts-question-north-korea-hacker-claims
Why would NK have a strategic interest in hacking Sony?
Why is NK being so "dangerous" in planning a nuclear bomb test? In threatening a pre-emptive strike against NK, is not Trump playing with fire? The US response is not proportional to the NK threat, in my view. Trump is being trigger-happy. That is one reason for not bombing NK.
We know that the NK political leadership is mentally unstable. That is no surprise. But so is that of the US, whose intelligence proved utterly incompetent due to "Curveball" fifteen years ago and the recent spurious hacking claims. That is the second reason.
Is a super mighty strike more powerful than an ultimate mighty strike?
How funny would it have been if Trump has said "If we are given a super mighty strike we will retaliate with an ultimate mighty strike!
How funny would it have been if Trump has said "If we are given a super mighty strike we will retaliate with an ultimate mighty strike!
But when the bombs go off, they merely pop out flags that say "BOOM" on them.
It seems the one thing people agree on is that if there is a war, the people of South Korea are the ones who suffer the most. Death likely on a scale not seen in recent times. Things have to be exceptionally tense over there right now.
The one good thing that happens is maybe North Korea finally gets to be free absent it's dictator.
The one good thing that happens is maybe North Korea finally gets to be free absent it's dictator.
The Korean War
The Korean War lasted from 1950-1953. What happened in Korea pushed the boundaries of the Cold Wartowards ‘Warm War‘. ThoughAmerica and Russia did not officially clash, client states did in that Communist Chinafought and was armed and encouraged by Russia.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/the-cold-war/the-korean-war/
On Sunday June 25, 1950, Communist North Korean troops, supported by Soviet-supplied tanks, heavy artillery, and aircraft, crossed the 38th parallel and invaded the Republic of South Korea.
Critics of the CIA before and after the Korean invasion focused on the relatively few references to Korea in intelligence reporting. In particular, they noted the lack of any predictive estimates or other “actionable” warning intelligence that would have allowed US policymakers to anticipate Korean events before they reached the crisis stage.
Yet, contrary to what historians have written for many decades, CIA analysts did report frequently on Korea in the prewar years, although from a perspective that highlighted the Soviet Union’s involvement rather than local Korean events.
https://www.cia.gov/news-informatio...rean-war-intelligence-success-or-failure.html
Do you smell the Burn of history repeating itself?
The mainstream media consistently presents the communist nation as an immediate threat to U.S. national security, conjuring an endless number of hypothetical scenarios as to how they could join forces with Al-Qaeda and attack with a terroristic strategy. At the same time, the chest puffing of the late Kim Jong-iL and the standard fare of hyper-militant rhetoric on the part of the North Korean government in general seem to have lulled the American public into a trance of non-concern.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1422-will-globalists-use-north-korea-to-trigger-catastrophe
The Korean War lasted from 1950-1953. What happened in Korea pushed the boundaries of the Cold Wartowards ‘Warm War‘. ThoughAmerica and Russia did not officially clash, client states did in that Communist Chinafought and was armed and encouraged by Russia.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/the-cold-war/the-korean-war/
On Sunday June 25, 1950, Communist North Korean troops, supported by Soviet-supplied tanks, heavy artillery, and aircraft, crossed the 38th parallel and invaded the Republic of South Korea.
Critics of the CIA before and after the Korean invasion focused on the relatively few references to Korea in intelligence reporting. In particular, they noted the lack of any predictive estimates or other “actionable” warning intelligence that would have allowed US policymakers to anticipate Korean events before they reached the crisis stage.
Yet, contrary to what historians have written for many decades, CIA analysts did report frequently on Korea in the prewar years, although from a perspective that highlighted the Soviet Union’s involvement rather than local Korean events.
https://www.cia.gov/news-informatio...rean-war-intelligence-success-or-failure.html
Do you smell the Burn of history repeating itself?
The mainstream media consistently presents the communist nation as an immediate threat to U.S. national security, conjuring an endless number of hypothetical scenarios as to how they could join forces with Al-Qaeda and attack with a terroristic strategy. At the same time, the chest puffing of the late Kim Jong-iL and the standard fare of hyper-militant rhetoric on the part of the North Korean government in general seem to have lulled the American public into a trance of non-concern.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1422-will-globalists-use-north-korea-to-trigger-catastrophe
History does that.
If you fight a war you need to finish the war. Something that America has not learned easily.
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I intensely dislike the idea of war, in any regard. But I think allowing North Korea to obtain nuclear weapons, with the missile technology to hit South Korea or even Japan, would be utterly disastrous. I think the West need to do whatever deal or arrangement necessary with China, to prevent that. Even military action as a very last resort. I think however difficult things are now, they will be a lot lot worse if Kim Jong gets that technology.
The casualties in South Korea etc even now could be horrific, but if NK had viable nuclear technology and hit Tokyo with it ? Unimaginable. There have to be better options than this. Who knows what it would lead to, and the instability it could trigger.
I intensely dislike the idea of war, in any regard. But I think allowing North Korea to obtain nuclear weapons, with the missile technology to hit South Korea or even Japan, would be utterly disastrous. I think the West need to do whatever deal or arrangement necessary with China, to prevent that. Even military action as a very last resort. I think however difficult things are now, they will be a lot lot worse if Kim Jong gets that technology.
The casualties in South Korea etc even now could be horrific, but if NK had viable nuclear technology and hit Tokyo with it ? Unimaginable. There have to be better options than this. Who knows what it would lead to, and the instability it could trigger.
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Nice that we have a President working with China to try and avoid war. Rather than one sticking his head in the ground hoping all the bad people just go away.
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I personally am not worried in the slightest about the inane and rancid ramblings of Kim Jong-un, to be honest, these are the actions of a power hungry despot losing his grasp on control.