This should be a simple question. Consult with the golden rule.
Originally Posted by Griffschen
I've seen youth workers do it with clients where I work all the time. instead of coming down hard on them, we manipulate them into doing what we thing is ultimately the best thing for them. We offer rewards for them to stay in school etc, while we make life harder for them if they don't.
i'm not explaining this well sorry. I'm really tired.
Manipulation/manipulating seems juxtaposed to reasoning/convincing.
When individuals cannot be easily reasoned with, but their action is necessary, manipulation seems necessary. My problem is with what people think is necessary.
Good Point! That is a problem... Who gets to decide what's necessary?
What type of authority?
No, no, that makes sense... I'm just wondering at what point in that you start forcing your morals on others...
It makes sense that you have the best intentions, doing these things "for their own good", but ultimately, you are deciding what's good for them... If you apply that principal across the board, that can lead to sticky situations...
I do think the fact that teenagers are still considered kids in our society changes things... but that principal applied to adults can lead to bad things done by people with good intentions "for our own good"...
Strangers enticing in general seems "out of place" to me except in those psychological thrillers... or the Pied Piper... Creepy!...
I agree with the authority comment though. I think the tricky part comes when people believe they should, or get, to have some kind of authority in someone else's life.
Cause all this begs to ask, what about "interventions" where friends go to drastic measures to ensure that their friend stops do something that they believe is destructive? I'm not saying interventions are bad, I just wonder where they fit in this question of manipulation...