Why should I? It's no loss to me if I don't. You have the opportunity to expound and if you're going to waste it, that's not my problem. I've got better things to do than figure out your riddles.
Is the Confederate Flag racist?
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Why should I? It's no loss to me if I don't. You have the opportunity to expound and if you're going to waste it, that's not my problem. I've got better things to do than figure out your riddles.
We should just assume he means that shooting up churches is what they do. I suppose that'd be sufficiently ignorant of us. Ignorance has to be what he wants since he refuses to explain his cryptic message and asks us to figure it out.
Obviously he wants us to reach the wrong conclusion so he can confirm how ignorant we are. Therefore we're not getting any help.
There is NO NEED to take pride in every part of your history, just because your ancestors may have died fighting for a certain cause. Germans today (except for the extreme right neonazi groups..) have completely renounced their past and have found new ways to be proud of their culture and ancestry without being nationalistic and celebrating their traditional "way of life" because that way of life used to include, er, murdering Jews. Why can't Southerners (well, all Americans) today let go of their pride in a racist past? Let's not call it anything other than it is.
Mississippi's original position on the Civil War, in their declaration of secession: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery—the greatest material interest of the world."
Louisiana's statement of secession: "The people of the slave holding States are bound together by the same necessity and determination to preserve African slavery."
The secessionists believed ending slavery would mean a loss of property as well as a loss of white supremacy - and thus a loss of their way of life. Is this the "way of life" Southerners are trying to preserve and take pride in when they display the Confederate flag? Because you cannot disconnect the flag from its despicably racist origins. And even if you could, there's no denying the flag is offensive to countless people. If you are truly not a racist, then you'd be ashamed to display a flag that so obviously upsets and threatens so many people--even if you still somehow believe its origins are benign.
Mississippi's original position on the Civil War, in their declaration of secession: "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery—the greatest material interest of the world."
Louisiana's statement of secession: "The people of the slave holding States are bound together by the same necessity and determination to preserve African slavery."
The secessionists believed ending slavery would mean a loss of property as well as a loss of white supremacy - and thus a loss of their way of life. Is this the "way of life" Southerners are trying to preserve and take pride in when they display the Confederate flag? Because you cannot disconnect the flag from its despicably racist origins. And even if you could, there's no denying the flag is offensive to countless people. If you are truly not a racist, then you'd be ashamed to display a flag that so obviously upsets and threatens so many people--even if you still somehow believe its origins are benign.
Proud of killing off the red man?
Torching the South?
Why does the flag mean so much to Americans? Geronimo died in Ft. Sill in 1909. Place it on the moon. Fly it on our ships.
And so it starts: by IAN HANCHETT24 Jun 2015
Louis Farrakhan stated “We need to put the American flag down. Because we’ve caught as much hell under that as the Confederate flag” in remarks before the Metropolitan AME Church in Washington, DC on Wednesday first reported by DC’s WMAL.
Farrakhan said, “White folks march with you because they don’t want you upsetting the city, they don’t give a damn about them nine.”
He added that when the police took suspected shooter Dylann Roof to Burger King they were saying “You did a good job. Kill all them [bleep.]”
Later, he declared, “I don’t know what the hell the fight is about over the Confederate flag. We need to put the American flag down. Because we’ve caught as much hell under that as the Confederate flag,” comments that were meant with cheers and applause. He added, “Who are we fighting today? It’s the people that carry the American flag.”
It's never enough.
Torching the South?
Why does the flag mean so much to Americans? Geronimo died in Ft. Sill in 1909. Place it on the moon. Fly it on our ships.
And so it starts: by IAN HANCHETT24 Jun 2015
Louis Farrakhan stated “We need to put the American flag down. Because we’ve caught as much hell under that as the Confederate flag” in remarks before the Metropolitan AME Church in Washington, DC on Wednesday first reported by DC’s WMAL.
Farrakhan said, “White folks march with you because they don’t want you upsetting the city, they don’t give a damn about them nine.”
He added that when the police took suspected shooter Dylann Roof to Burger King they were saying “You did a good job. Kill all them [bleep.]”
Later, he declared, “I don’t know what the hell the fight is about over the Confederate flag. We need to put the American flag down. Because we’ve caught as much hell under that as the Confederate flag,” comments that were meant with cheers and applause. He added, “Who are we fighting today? It’s the people that carry the American flag.”
It's never enough.
He really likes being as cryptic as possible…but personally I think he just likes to drink too much and stops making sense after a certain time of the day.
There is sundowners syndrome to consider too - http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/guide/sundowning-causes-symptoms-treatments
Of course I jest (and I sincerely apologize to all those people ((including myself)) who has ever had the challenging task of taking care of such a person…it’s fucking hard, good job!).
It’s a generational mentality that will continue to vanish until people will look back and laugh that this was even a thing that upset people.
Does the patriotic symbol of a lost war really mean that much to you?
To take down the symbols of racism or that are associated…or even vaguely related to racism will not diminish the memory of anyone who died in that war on either side.
Quit making this into something it isn't
No…just as my previous post says…no, I am not proud that the US fucked over the Native Americans, and the Spanish, Mexico, England, France, Canada, wow…I could literally go on forever…who would have thunk?
I served in the military…don’t even get me started on patriotism.
Want to burn the flag? Do it.
This is the freedom that young men went to fight for in past wars.
Now we fight wars to form an oil hegemony.
Whatever…fly the flag of idiocy.
This is fallacious and shows that you can't defend your own argument.
1. Hypocrisy of someone else does not exonerate your side.
2. That flag is the flag of our current nation so it's in use, but a lot of people hate it regardless.
3. The flag that we're talking about in this thread is not even the Confederate national flag, it's a battle flag. Are you planning to do battle any time soon?
[MENTION=5045]Skarekrow[/MENTION]
Not to mention that there's three actual Confederate flags and that flag isn't even one of them and never was. It's not even the fucking Stars and Bars - THIS is the Stars and Bars
It's pretty sad when people bitch about heritage but can't even get the name of their own fucking flags right.
Not to mention that there's three actual Confederate flags and that flag isn't even one of them and never was. It's not even the fucking Stars and Bars - THIS is the Stars and Bars
It's pretty sad when people bitch about heritage but can't even get the name of their own fucking flags right.
...and here is wisdom. Pretty sad when people bitch about it.@Skarekrow
Not to mention that there's three actual Confederate flags and that flag isn't even one of them and never was. It's not even the fucking Stars and Bars - THIS is the Stars and Bars
It's pretty sad when people bitch about heritage but can't even get the name of their own fucking flags right.
Republicans have historically been pro flag.... this is the only statement in the article that makes me think its full of crap. I was going along with it until I saw that.
So lets get some historical facts out of the way shall we? It was Republican support and work in congress that ended slavery. Democrats did not want anything to do with ending it.
So I would like to see some information that specifically outlays exactly how Republicans have supported the confederate flag.
The parties have basically switched sides twice since then.
- http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...tates-switch-to-the-democrats-and-vice-versa/
What the hell is pro-flag anyhow?
Are you referring to it not being disrespected or treated in a certain way?
I never understood it though I was taught both by my Dad and the USCG how a flag is to be properly handled and treated, and I understand the symbolism that it represents….but those are notions of patriotism being projected onto a symbol by people no different than anyone else around the world.
I get it….but I think it’s silly.