[INTP] INTP/INFJ - The Golden Pair

[Reason]

I don't see INTPs as 'rebels', though, they seem too apathetic for that

Rebellious napping

 

[Reason]

Troll me .

 

[ClevelandINTP]

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Something like this maybe. Each type has a 'primary disposition' towards the social structure, and a 'secondary disposition' that sometimes expresses, though some types have 'double dispositions'. Not set in stone, of course, just fiddling around.

E.g. Not sure about ISTJs... who are usually thought of as the quintessential conformists.

There's a fifth cluster

 

[ClevelandINTP]

... of which, ISTJ is in

 

[ClevelandINTP]

I wish the data suggested the types could be neatly placed in that 2x2 matrix, but it doesn't. You could probably throw that out and no one would call you on it

 

[ClevelandINTP]

I don't see INTPs as 'rebels', though, they seem too apathetic for that - I would put them in a 'dismissive/outsider/escape' cluster. E.g. (not final):

CONFORM

CONQUER

REBEL

ESCAPE
(INTP in here)

We are definitely a "fringe" type based on this model as shown by being a linking type to 3 other clusters. We just happen to best fit the rebel one

 

[ClevelandINTP]

I would also humor apathy to be a form of resisting control

 

[ClevelandINTP]

I am so normal, why am I the only normal person, I must be weird

Bingo

 

[ClevelandINTP]

I just whipped this together in a minute, it's not perfect or in line with the data 100%, but the system is constructed more like this

 

[Deleted member 16771]

I just whipped this together in a minute, it's not perfect or in line with the data 100%, but the system is constructed more like this

Can you explain in layman's terms what the method of your 'data' is?

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Can you explain in layman's terms what the method of your 'data' is?

Data was used from a study I believe an ENTP did. I think they developed a survey with several responses compiled to answer features about two dimensions

There are two variables at the end of that I am literally doing simple scatterplots and cluster analysis on

The original author sort of dismissed their own findings for what appeared to be lack of confidence for no apparent reason in my opinion

I remember reading it and saying this is thing that makes the most sense, and you could do so much more with this than leaving it where they did. Of course, I think they had other motivations for doing the study, but still

 

[ClevelandINTP]

I'm assuming the survey responses were likert scale

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Ends up like this. The percentage at the bottom expresses the total proportion of each cluster. One might ask why INTP is grouped with the rebels? Well, it's the data: the average distance to the other two is less than the fifth cluster

There's much more to it than this and quite a lot of questions it opens up. I think it has the potential to tell some compelling narratives

 

[Deleted member 16771]

Ends up like this. The percentage at the bottom expresses the total proportion of each cluster. One might ask why INTP is grouped with the rebels? Well, it's the data: the average distance to the other two is less than the fifth cluster

There's much more to it than this and quite a lot of questions it opens up. I think it has the potential to tell some compelling narratives

Very cool... What are the two dimensions?

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Responses to psychopathy: nature vs nurture

 

[Deleted member 16771]

Responses to psychopathy: nature vs nurture

Oh wow... interesting, didn't expect that.

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Yeah, it's mind-blowing if it can be reproduced and validated

 

[ClevelandINTP]

Been on my mind for three years

 

[dhaar]

For what it's worth, you're forgiven.

how is it going on ? ( madam ) is that your lover giving you time to time hugs or not ? hehe

 

[dhaar]

Been on my mind for three years

yea she must be getting hugs and kisses time to time in her lovers very long arms.