INTfJ vs. INFtJ

As far as telling the difference between INFJ and INTJ, it comes down to the placement if Fe, Te, Ti, and Fi. If someone is on the border between INFJ and INTJ, they often have mulled results when it comes to the feeling and thinking functions. More often then not, a disclear order will appear. Such as having Fi and Ti being above Fe and Te. Then it becomes hard to pull the two apart. The deciding factor though, really comes down to Fe and Te. One of the best litmus tests I would suggest is sorting out if the thinking side of the person is oriented more around the self; internal processing, trying to make inner feelings logical, ordering thoughts and patterns out for themselves in the mind. Then seeing if the the feeling side is more directed externally; examining what others are thinking, trying to please everyone, bending ones confort zone to make people feel confortable. If these two cases are in place, the person is INFJ.

 

Ni = knowing the answer without knowing how or why.

Depending on INFJ, or INTJ, you'll have one of the following sets...

INFJ:
Fe = focusing on the communal well being and care for others.
Ti = knowing how things work and focusing on the details.

INTJ:
Te = knowing how things relate and focusing on the big picture.
Fi = focusing on you you feel and what you think is right.

INFJ males usually have a very strong Ti, and INTJ females usually have a very strong Fi. This is likely due to cultural expectations of T and F, but may be as simple as biochemistry. The end result is a heightened tertiary function in both cases. I think this is what is causing your confusion.

 

I seen to have more problem with INFJ/INTP. This is mainly do to the fact that my Te is not that great, however, my Ti and Ne both being relatively high creates this confusion. My typical order of cognitive functions goes Ni>Ti>Ne>Fe>Fi>Te>Si>Se. As you can see it can get a bit confusing, this changes also with my mood and I often score anything INXX really. I know I'm a I since well I always score high on introverted functions, and the introvert description fits me. I know I'm a N since both of my N functions are high, My thinking and Feeling varies a lot however, which makes me go into INXX since the cognitive functions change.

 

If you have high Ni and Ti, you're probably INFJ as opposed to INTJ. It is a question of Fe and Ti or Te and Fi.

It is easy to mistake INFJs for INTJs, but once you recognize the functions you'll see they are different internally (unless all their T functions and F functions really are close).

I've seen Fi in INTJ females manifest in their preferences for (okay, it is mean to say it, but obsessions) with things they enjoy (usually various forms of media) and their deep opinions on various issues (often scientific). The same, however, goes for male INTJs. When INTJ females engage others (or INTJs in general), they're generally perceived as much colder than they actually are. You don't mistake Fi for Fe (unless you don't understand the functions at all). You see either Te or Fe, and they are very distinct. INTJs are generally perceived to be much less caring than they actually are.

Also, because of how society is, many INTJ women don't have the guts/have been socialized to keep their strong opinions and judgments to themselves. They still want people to like them and to fit in somehow, but it is difficult for them.

 

I'm high in I and pretty high in J. But my F and T are exactly the same, it can be kind of confusing. Both are pretty accurate about me.

 

That is definitely an INTJ result set, on both accounts. Actually, those are classic INTJ results.

 

I don't think that anything is proven about typology besides the first 2 preferred functions

INFJ = introverted intuition + extroverted feeling preference
INTJ - introverted intuition + extroverted thinking preference

From the charts Von Hase has called up and had us produce, the rest is just trying to shoehorn systems together.

I'd like to see if NTs overall prefer all N and T the way that NFs prefer N and F.

EDIT: That chart says you are INFJ with heavy introversion.

 

where can I find this chart? I also have a problem with my functions and don't really know..

 

extraverted Sensing (Se) ********* (9.1)
unused

introverted Sensing (Si) ********* (9.3)
unused

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ***************************************** (41.6)
excellent use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************************************ (48.9)
excellent use

extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.7)
average use

introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************************** (42.5)
excellent use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) ******************************* (31.5)
good use

introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************************* (31.2)
good use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

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If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INFJ

wow

weird results I got...This is the weirdest one yet.

Ni>Ti>Ne>Fe>Fi>Te>Si>Se

the order has not changed but this time it shows both INTP and INFJ in options which is weird since INTP and INFJ both have 2 different letters..you would expect INFP...

 

I try not to confuse INFJ and INFj (MBTI vs Socionics).

INTJ females can mistype as INFJs very easily on the MBTI because it is a test that measures only T vs F preference without taking into account Ti/Te or Fi/Fe. Considering that both INFJs and INTJs have F and T functions as their secondary and auxiliary, they're likely to have narrow results even when they don't overestimate themselves. Add in a little gender bias and you have a mistype.

For example:

A standard INTJ result on the MBTI would look like this...

I variable%
N 50% ish
T 25% ish
J variable%

While a standard INFJ result on the MBTI would look like this...

I variable%
N 50% ish
F 25% ish
J variable%

This is because in both INTJs and INFJs, Ni is dominant and compared to the inferior function Se, and trumps it quite clearly. However, in both cases the distinction between T and F functions isn't as clear because it is a comparison of secondary and auxiliary function preference. A little bit of bias (+/- 12.5% on a test that has less than 20 questions per axis means 3 questions biased), and suddenly the typical 25% lean is a -2.5% lean.

This is how the MBTI can mistype INTJ females and INFJ males.

 

Well, I look at it this way: if the tests don't necessarily help clarify, look at the theory in action.

The difference I see between INFJs and INTJs in real life is subtle, but very apparent once you know how to find it. I have a very good friend who is an INTJ female with a strong F function, and I am an INFJ female with a strong T function. She can be very caring, very emotionally attached to her friends, very feminine. I can be very impartial, very emotionally distant to many people, and less girly.

How to spot the difference? Well, it's a matter of reacting on a wider scale in everyday life. Yeah, she really loves her friends and all that, but she also has no problem about making fun of people she doesn't know too well. Misfortune of others doesn't really provoke her. She doesn't much give a damn about what others do unless it affects her, and she laughs at some pretty brutal things. Although she doesn't like blatant cruelty, she doesn't much care about the little miseries of normal people.

For me, I am really tolerant of others, and it bothers me when someone is being bullied. I feel bad when people laugh at others' expense a lot of the time. I am often accommodating, and even when I am impartial, I care about the well-being of people and their social situations. I easily empathize with others and their hardships.

Think about what is your most natural response to things. Cognitive function tests are great, but sometimes when they are close, you have to really examine your reaction in a real-world setting.