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Geronimo:

''After about a year some trouble arose between them and the Indians, and I took the war path as a warrior, not as a chief. I had not been wronged, but some of my people had been, and I fought with my tribe; for the soldiers and not the Indians were at fault.''

''I was born on the prairies where the wind blew free and there was nothing to break the light of the sun. I was born where there were no enclosures.''

''I cannot think that we are useless or God would not have created us. There is one God looking down on us all. We are all the children of one God. The sun, the darkness, the winds are all listening to what we have to say.''

''I was no chief and never had been, but because I had been more deeply wronged than others, this honor was conferred upon me, and I resolved to prove worthy of the trust.''
 
John Muir:

''Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean.''

''When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe.''
 
Robert Graves:

‘What is the use or function of poetry nowadays?’ is a question not the less poignant for being defiantly asked by so many stupid people or apologetically answered by so many silly people. The function of poetry is religious invocation of the Muse; its use is the experience of mixed exaltation and horror that her presence excites. But ‘nowadays?’ Function and use remain the same: only the application has changed. This was once a warning to man that he must keep in harmony with the family of living creatures among which he was born, by obedience to the wishes of the lady of the house; it is now a reminder that he has disregarded the warning, turned the house upside down by capricious experiments in philosophy, science and industry, and brought ruin on himself and his family.

’Nowadays’ is a civilization in which the prime emblems of poetry are dishonoured. In which serpent, lion and eagle belong to the circus-tent; ox, salmon and boar to the cannery; racehorse and greyhound to the betting ring; and the sacred grove to the saw-mill. In which the Moon is despised as a burned-out satellite of the Earth and woman reckoned as ‘auxiliary State personnel’. In which money will buy almost anything but truth, and almost anyone but the truth-possessed poet.

Call me, if you like, the fox who has lost his brush. I am nobody’s servant and have chosen to live on the outskirts of a Majorcan mountain-village, Catholic but anti-ecclesiastical, where life is still ruled by the old agricultural cycle. Without my brush, namely my contact with urban civilization, all that I write must read perversely and irrelevantly to such of you as are still geared to the industrial machine, whether directly as workers, managers, traders or advertisers or indirectly as civil servants,
publishers, journalists, schoolmasters or employees of a radio corporation. If you are poets, you will realize that acceptance of my historical thesis commits you to a confession of disloyalty which you will be loth to make; you chose your jobs because they promised to provide you with a steady income and leisure to render the Goddess whom you adore valuable part-time service. Who am I, you will ask, to warn you that she commands either whole-time service or none at all? And do I suggest that you should resign your jobs for want of sufficient capital to set up as small-holders, turn romantic shepherds – as Don Quixote did after his failure to come to terms with the modern world – in remote unmechanized farms? No, my brushlessness debars me from offering any practical suggestion. I dare attempt only a historical statement of the problem; how you come to terms with the Goddess is no concern of mine. I do not even know that you are serious in your poetic profession.
 
There were many INFJ leaders, but I have respect only for very few of them.
I'll name three of them: Abraham Lincoln, JF Kennedy, Jimmy Carter...all US presidents.
 
Che Guevara is another INFJ "evil" fellow.
Lenin is another, and this one's influence is huge, perhaps bigger then Hitler.
Trotsky is another one. Actually there alot of communists and nazi important personalities that were INFJs.

But how about Karl Marx? Did any of you guys knew Marx was a INFJ? One more agressive and dominating, like Hitler was.
 
Oh, I forgot about that Friederich Engels guy.
 
Thomas Jefferson was not INFJ, he was a INTJ. At least let's be honest.
We have Abraham Lincoln tough...
 
The guy from Google, Larry Page, is a INFJ. He is pretty smart.

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And here is Mark Zukerberkb, from Facebook. He is a INTJ.

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See the difference between the two? INTJs are more "solid", they have a very strong posture, as if they have bars of steel in them.
 
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Can you please post some quotes by these guys as way of evidence for your claims?

Because otherwise it just seems like another one of your attacks on the INFJ type

I reckon INFJ's are every bit the physical match of INTJ's
 
Karl Marx=INTJ
Markl Zuckerberg=INTJ

https://www.alignedsigns.com/blog/MBTI-Personality-Type-Overview-of-INTJ-The-Strategist.htm
[h=1]MBTI® Personality Type: Overview of INTJ, The "Strategist"[/h]
INTJ’s are also called the “The Scientists” or “Masterminds”. INTJ is an acronym which stands for Introversion, Intuition, Thinking and Judgement. It is one of the sixteen personality types defined under the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)®. MBTI® was developed by prominent psychiatrist Carl Jung and presented in his famous work, Psychological Types. The indicator has its foundations in theories of cognitive function and is a psychological categorization based on Jung’s clinical observations. Efficient application of the tool gives an idea about the outlook, perceptions and thought process that a person has.
The MBTI® categorization is based on the following analysis:

  1. How does one get energy? – Through Introversion
  2. How does one take in information? – Through Intuition
  3. How does one make decisions? – Through Thinking
  4. How does one view the world? – Through Judgement
[h=3]Personality Traits[/h] The INTJ personality type is considered to be one of the rarest in the population.
They are highly enigmatic and love all forms of mysteries, puzzles and conundrums.
A high level of intelligence is almost given in a typical INTJ, and so is self-confidence. They derive their confidence from knowledge which they gather from absorbing everything they can. In early life, many INTJs are bookworms!
INTJs have almost all the positive mental attributes. They are quick thinkers. They are deep thinkers. They are fine decision-makers. They are creative and extremely articulate. With such an arsenal, they end up with leadership roles that the society eventually thrusts upon them. Though they do well, generally they are not seekers of power and would rather stay away from being the center of attention if they can help it.
They have a high level of curiosity as they seek to better everything that they come in contact with. The underlying thought process is always to make something original, more efficient and/or more elegant. In essence, they strive for perfection.
INTJs dislike anything that is not sensible. At certain times, they might also find it challenging to explain their own emotions. Their hunt for rationality may also hurt the emotions of people around them. Traditions, customs and social interactions in which they see no logic are completely disregarded, at times, at the cost of their close relationships.
Understanding people and reading between the lines is not something that comes naturally to them. They are themselves quite honest and direct. They may become judgmental where they fail to understand another person’s feelings.
[h=3]Relationships[/h] Amusingly, one area which is the biggest mystery to an INTJ is the ‘method’ to attract a partner! Given to deep analysis, they take this habit in the field of dating as well and suffer as they try to come to terms with the norms and rituals which defy reasoning.
In fact, once they relax and give-up actively ‘hunting’ for a partner, they do well as their originality and confidence come through.
The initial phase of the relationship can be difficult as their partners begin to comprehend their many quirks. But after that, things get easier as INTJs tend to grow into a relationship. They are quite caring about their partner and extremely loyal as well. Their relationships tend to be long-lasting because once their partners discover them fully, they find it tough let go.

At all stages of a newly budding relationship, they need reciprocation and feedback because they are not their usual confident selves during this learning curve.
Their relationships with partners having extroverted personalities are more likely to succeed because they create a complement to the INTJ and as a couple, find balance. Also partners with higher perception allow them to be more grounded in reality. Hence INTJs do well with ENFP or ENTP counter-parts.
[h=3]Career[/h] With the talent that they have, INTJs do well in almost everything. They tend to pick a career path early and stick to it for lengthy amounts of time.
INTJ’s tend to excel most in Science and Engineering fields. They also find research appealing across a variety of topics. It’s not unlikely to find people with PhDs in fields like applied physics, quantitative finance and mathematics are INTJs.
They are great at strategy and planning and love to analyse data. Being part of important think-tanks which define vision, goals and execution of corporates or even nations is natural and fulfilling for them.
They do well in most jobs where they can work alone and as per their rules. They are less likely to enjoy structured team environments or client facing job profiles.

  • Scientists
  • Engineers
  • Professors and Teachers
  • Medical Doctors / Dentists
  • Corporate Strategists and Organization Builders
  • Business Administrators / Managers
  • Military Leaders
  • Lawyers / Attorneys
  • Judges
  • Computer Programmers
  • Systems Analysts
  • Computer Specialists
[h=3]Famous People[/h]
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  • Isaac Newton
  • Ayn Rand
  • Karl Marx
  • Mark Zuckerberg
  • Garry Kasparov
  • Nikola Tesla
  • Jean-Paul Sartre
  • Stephen Hawking among others.
 
Abraham Lincoln=ENFJ

http://typelogic.com/enfj.html

Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging
by Joe Butt Profile: ENFJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 23 Feb 2005

ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity. They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes. Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship. But it's usually not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are.
ENFJs are global learners. They see the big picture. The ENFJs focus is expansive. Some can juggle an amazing number of responsibilities or projects simultaneously. Many ENFJs have tremendous entrepreneurial ability.
ENFJs are, by definition, Js, with whom we associate organization and decisiveness. But they don't resemble the SJs or even the NTJs in organization of the environment nor occasional recalcitrance. ENFJs are organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs. Their offices may or may not be cluttered, but their conclusions (reached through feelings) about people and motives are drawn much more quickly and are more resilient than those of their NFP counterparts.
ENFJs know and appreciate people. Like most NFs, (and Feelers in general), they are apt to neglect themselves and their own needs for the needs of others. They have thinner psychological boundaries than most, and are at risk for being hurt or even abused by less sensitive people. ENFJs often take on more of the burdens of others than they can bear.
[h=4]TRADEMARK: "The first shall be last"[/h] This refers to the open-door policy of ENFJs. One ENFJ colleague always welcomes me into his office regardless of his own circumstances. If another person comes to the door, he allows them to interrupt our conversation with their need. While discussing that need, the phone rings and he stops to answer it. Others drop in with a 'quick question.' I finally get up, go to my office and use the call waiting feature on the telephone. When he hangs up, I have his undivided attention! Functional Analysis:
[h=4]Extraverted Feeling[/h] Extraverted Feeling rules the ENFJ's psyche. In the sway of this rational function, these folks are predisposed to closure in matters pertaining to people, and especially on behalf of their beloved. As extraverts, their contacts are wide ranging. Face-to-face relationships are intense, personable and warm, though they may be so infrequently achieved that intimate friendships are rare. [h=4]Introverted iNtuition[/h] Like their INFJ cousins, ENFJs are blessed through introverted intuition with clarity of perception in the inner, unconscious world. Dominant Feeling prefers to find the silver lining in even the most beggarly perceptions of those in their expanding circle of friends and, of course, in themselves. In less balanced individuals, such mitigation of the unseemly eventually undermines the ENFJ's integrity and frequently their good name. In healthier individuals, deft use of this awareness of the inner needs and desires of others enables this astute type to win friends, influence people, and avoid compromising entanglements. The dynamic nature of their intuition moves ENFJs from one project to another with the assurance that the next one will be perfect, or much more nearly so than the last. ENFJs are continually looking for newer and better solutions to benefit their extensive family, staff, or organization.
[h=4]Extraverted Sensing[/h] Sensing is extraverted. ENFJs can manage details, particularly those necessary to implement the prevailing vision. These data have, however, a magical flexible quality. Something to be bought can be had for a song; the same something is invaluable when it's time to sell. (We are not certain, but we suspect that such is the influence of the primary function.) This wavering of sensory perception is made possible by the weaker and less mature status with which the tertiary is endowed. [h=4]Introverted Thinking[/h] Introverted Thinking is least apparent and most enigmatic in this type. In fact, it often appears only when summoned by Feeling. At times only in jest, but in earnest if need be, Thinking entertains as logical only those conclusions which support Feeling's values. Other scenarios can be shown invalid or at best significantly inferior. Such "Thinking in the service of Feeling" has the appearance of logic, but somehow it never quite adds up. Introverted Thinking is frequently the focus of the spiritual quest of ENFJs. David's lengthiest psalm, 119, pays it homage. "Law," "precept," "commandment," "statute:" these essences of inner thinking are the mysteries of Deity for which this great Feeler's soul searched.
[h=4]Famous ENFJs:[/h] David, King of Israel
U.S. Presidents:
Abraham Lincoln
Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama

William Cullen Bryant, poet
Abraham Maslow, psychologist and proponent of self-actualization
Ross Perot
Sean Connery
Elizabeth Dole
Francois Mitterand
Dick Van Dyke
Andy Griffith
James Garner
William Aramony, former president of United Way
Gene Hackman (Superman, Antz)
Dennis Hopper (Speed)
Brenda Vaccaro
Craig T. Nelson (Coach)
Diane Sawyer (Good Morning America)
Randy Quaid (Bye Bye, Love; Independence Day)
Tommy Lee Jones (The Fugitive)
Kirstie Alley ("Cheers," Look Who's Talking movies)
Michael Jordan, NBA basketball player
Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean)
Oprah Winfrey
Bob Saget America's Funniest Home Videos, Full House
Julia Louis-Dreyfus ("Seinfeld")
Ben Stiller (The Royal Tenenbaums)
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts quarterback
Matthew McConaughey (The Wedding Planner)
Pete Sampras, Tennis Champion
Lauren Graham ("Gilmore Girls")
Ben Affleck (The Sum Of All Fears)
John Cusack (High Fidelity) [h=4]Fictional ENFJs:[/h] Joe Hackett, Wings
 
Of all the people i've seen attack INFJ's on this forum i have never seen anyone missunderstand INFJ's as deeply as you @LucyJr

You take the biscuit

Every site i visit and my own opinion all disagree with everything you say

It's like you have created your very own system that exists only in your own head
 
http://thesixteentypes.tumblr.com/page/19

These guys reckon lincoln to be INTP and Larry page to be INTP:


  • Abraham Lincoln (16th US President)
  • Albert Einstein (Physicist)
  • Charles Darwin (Biologist)
  • Richard Dawkins (Biologist)
  • Marie Curie (Scientist)
  • Immanuel Kant (Philosopher)
  • John Locke (Philosopher)
  • James Madison (4th US President)
  • Adam Smith (Economist)
  • Rene Descartes (Philosopher)
  • Larry Page (Founder of Google)
  • Sergey Brin (Founder of Google)
  • Paul Allen (Founder of Microsoft)
  • Franz Kafka (Author)
  • Jesse Eisenberg (Actor)
  • Tina Fey (Comedian and Actress)
 
These guys have Thomas Jefferson and Kennedy down as INTJ's:

Vladimir Putin, President of Russia
Augustus Caesar, Roman emperor
Paul Krugman, famous American economist
Rudy Giuliani, former New York mayor
Donald Rumsfeld, former U.S. Secretary of Defense
Colin Powell, former U.S. Secretary of State
Samantha Power, diplomat
Lance Armstrong, bicyclist
Richard Gere, actor
Hannibal, military leader of Carthage
Arnold Schwarzenegger, actor and former California governor
Thomas Jefferson, former U.S. president
John F. Kennedy, former U.S. president
Woodrow Wilson, former U.S. president
“Walter White” (“Heisenberg”) from Breaking Bad
“Gandalf the Grey” from The Lord of the Rings
“Katniss Everdeen” from The Hunger Games
“Hannibal” and “Clarice Starling” from Silence of the Lambs
“Professor Moriarty,” Sherlock Holmes’ enemy
“Gregory House” from House M.D.

http://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality
 
These guys have che guevara down as an ENFP:

http://mbti-psychology.tumblr.com/post/14517217534/non-fiction-bill-clinton-hunter-s-thompson


  • Bill Clinton
  • Hunter S. Thompson
  • Mark Twain
  • Aldous Huxley
  • Che Guevara
  • Salman Rushdie
  • Ralph Nader
  • Naomi Klein
  • Cordelia Fine
  • Noreena Hertz
  • Neil Strauss
  • Aelius Aristides
  • Arianna Huffington
  • Ellen DeGeneres
  • Katie Couric
  • Maureen Dowd
  • Jon Ronson
  • Tim Harford
  • Richard Wiseman
  • Jerry Seinfeld
  • Dave Barry
  • Louisa May Alcott
  • Anne Frank
  • Agathon
  • Nathaniel Branden
  • Benito Mussolini
  • Sheldon B. Kopp
  • Erica Jong
  • Andy Rooney
  • Mona Eltahawy
  • Charles Dickens
  • Bob Dylan
  • Dr. Seuss
  • Bill Cosby
 
Lenin INTJ:

http://myersbriggspersonalitytypes.tumblr.com/post/49804816172/famous-infamous-intjs


  • Isaac Newton
  • Karl Marx
  • Ayn Rand
  • Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Mark Zuckerberg
  • John Adams
  • Heraclitus
  • Martin Luther
  • John Nash
  • G.W.F. Hegel
  • Jane Austen
  • Jean-Paul Sartre
  • Stephen Hawking
  • Augustus
  • Vladimir Lenin
  • Anders Breivik
  • Ted Kaczynski
  • James Cameron
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger
  • Russell Crowe
  • Jay-Z
  • Jodie Foster
  • Ashley Olsen
  • Roger Waters
  • Betty Friedan
  • Susan Sontag
  • Friedrich Schiller
 
Who else do you want to misstype as an INFJ?

How about tyrannasaurus rex or maybe the bomb they dropped on nagasaki?

Or Skelator maybe?
 
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Karl Marx=INTJ
Markl Zuckerberg=INTJ

https://www.alignedsigns.com/blog/MBTI-Personality-Type-Overview-of-INTJ-The-Strategist.htm
[h=1]MBTI® Personality Type: Overview of INTJ, The "Strategist"[/h]
INTJ’s are also called the “The Scientists” or “Masterminds”. INTJ is an acronym which stands for Introversion, Intuition, Thinking and Judgement. It is one of the sixteen personality types defined under the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)®. MBTI® was developed by prominent psychiatrist Carl Jung and presented in his famous work, Psychological Types. The indicator has its foundations in theories of cognitive function and is a psychological categorization based on Jung’s clinical observations. Efficient application of the tool gives an idea about the outlook, perceptions and thought process that a person has.
The MBTI® categorization is based on the following analysis:

  1. How does one get energy? – Through Introversion
  2. How does one take in information? – Through Intuition
  3. How does one make decisions? – Through Thinking
  4. How does one view the world? – Through Judgement
[h=3]Personality Traits[/h] The INTJ personality type is considered to be one of the rarest in the population.
They are highly enigmatic and love all forms of mysteries, puzzles and conundrums.
A high level of intelligence is almost given in a typical INTJ, and so is self-confidence. They derive their confidence from knowledge which they gather from absorbing everything they can. In early life, many INTJs are bookworms!
INTJs have almost all the positive mental attributes. They are quick thinkers. They are deep thinkers. They are fine decision-makers. They are creative and extremely articulate. With such an arsenal, they end up with leadership roles that the society eventually thrusts upon them. Though they do well, generally they are not seekers of power and would rather stay away from being the center of attention if they can help it.
They have a high level of curiosity as they seek to better everything that they come in contact with. The underlying thought process is always to make something original, more efficient and/or more elegant. In essence, they strive for perfection.
INTJs dislike anything that is not sensible. At certain times, they might also find it challenging to explain their own emotions. Their hunt for rationality may also hurt the emotions of people around them. Traditions, customs and social interactions in which they see no logic are completely disregarded, at times, at the cost of their close relationships.
Understanding people and reading between the lines is not something that comes naturally to them. They are themselves quite honest and direct. They may become judgmental where they fail to understand another person’s feelings.
[h=3]Relationships[/h] Amusingly, one area which is the biggest mystery to an INTJ is the ‘method’ to attract a partner! Given to deep analysis, they take this habit in the field of dating as well and suffer as they try to come to terms with the norms and rituals which defy reasoning.
In fact, once they relax and give-up actively ‘hunting’ for a partner, they do well as their originality and confidence come through.
The initial phase of the relationship can be difficult as their partners begin to comprehend their many quirks. But after that, things get easier as INTJs tend to grow into a relationship. They are quite caring about their partner and extremely loyal as well. Their relationships tend to be long-lasting because once their partners discover them fully, they find it tough let go.

At all stages of a newly budding relationship, they need reciprocation and feedback because they are not their usual confident selves during this learning curve.
Their relationships with partners having extroverted personalities are more likely to succeed because they create a complement to the INTJ and as a couple, find balance. Also partners with higher perception allow them to be more grounded in reality. Hence INTJs do well with ENFP or ENTP counter-parts.
[h=3]Career[/h] With the talent that they have, INTJs do well in almost everything. They tend to pick a career path early and stick to it for lengthy amounts of time.
INTJ’s tend to excel most in Science and Engineering fields. They also find research appealing across a variety of topics. It’s not unlikely to find people with PhDs in fields like applied physics, quantitative finance and mathematics are INTJs.
They are great at strategy and planning and love to analyse data. Being part of important think-tanks which define vision, goals and execution of corporates or even nations is natural and fulfilling for them.
They do well in most jobs where they can work alone and as per their rules. They are less likely to enjoy structured team environments or client facing job profiles.

  • Scientists
  • Engineers
  • Professors and Teachers
  • Medical Doctors / Dentists
  • Corporate Strategists and Organization Builders
  • Business Administrators / Managers
  • Military Leaders
  • Lawyers / Attorneys
  • Judges
  • Computer Programmers
  • Systems Analysts
  • Computer Specialists
[h=3]Famous People[/h]
MarkZAS.jpg
NikolaT.jpg


  • Isaac Newton
  • Ayn Rand
  • Karl Marx
  • Mark Zuckerberg
  • Garry Kasparov
  • Nikola Tesla
  • Jean-Paul Sartre
  • Stephen Hawking among others.

Nikola Tesla: ENTP
Garry Gasparov: ENTJ
Stephen Hawking: INTP
Jean Paul Sartre: INFJ
Karl Marx: INFJ
Ayn Rand: INTJ
Issac Newton: INTJ

This is their correct type to each of these people.

Never take, my advice, type's people from typology sites. Werdly enough, they are exactly the people who type wrongly other people.