Have I been using Si all this time??

This interests me as well. I always get the lowest scores on Si/Se on the cognitive functions tests. However, the MBTI tests give me only a slight preference of N over S. I'm fully aware that tests are pretty much unreliable.

So I'm interested in what other people's opinions are on this subject as well.

 

If you back down more easily - Si, otherwise - Se.


Some of the worst conflicts in history began with someone trying to push Se.


"They may torture my body, break my bones, even kill me, then they will have my dead body. NOT MY OBEDIENCE!"
- if you relate to this - Se.


-if you are more like "yeah, whatever" - Si.

 

I use Si much more then I thought I have in the past. It is infact, my second function. Singling out Si on it's own is actually kind of tricky, because it depends on the function it is filtered through, Fe or Te. I primarly filter it through Fe.

The things that made me realise how much I use Si is how bound I am to social rule. For the life of me, I can't break it. I can bend it (because I am an Ni primary), but not break. I don't like to rock the boat at all, I avoid it as much as possible. I try to create harmony with everything. I am also extremely anal about appearing social acceptable. Lateness bugs the hell out of me. If something is out of place, or out of line, I will notice it, and want to put it back the way it was. I detest change of any kind, and I will flip if I was not given forwarning about it.

Really, you can see if you use Si more if you reflect on how you intereact with people, not so much with basic actions.

 

I have always neglected my Si to tell you the truth, denying the fact that I use it quite often in different areas of my life, I certainly use it a lot more than Se(although is still my 4th highest function).I get a lot of Si moments as I love to categorze differet things, I also enjoy using some expereinces as a base. Si can really be a fun process to learn, just that is not common for many INFJ's, yet being the introverted person that I am my introverted sensing is much higher than my extroverted one.

 

Please correct me on anything I get wrong, but Si reminds me very much of sentimental notions. It can be traditional, because tradition brings fond memories (Not in all cases of course). It is like a packrat of memories, coming into contact with something can bring back old memories and you can possibly even lose yourself from the outside world. It compares past similarities and differences to the current one.

I agree with IS on his Si, he has mentioned before about memory recall, which seems to fit very much with Si. A person with very strong Si would have TONS of old memories, you could mention a time and they may remember what the weather was like, what you were wearing, what music was playing, what perfume you were wearing, etc.

I see Se as much more fundamental, it is what you touch,taste,see,hear, and smell. It doesn't have anything to do with processing the data you take in, it is simply the observation of the senses.

Dragging your fingers along a wall to feel the texture, touching something when you see it, smelling something new, being drawn to, or avoiding, things that intensely stimulate your senses.

 

I may be mistaken, but this sounds like introverted thinking, especially in infj's.

Do you recall more detailed concrete information from these various smells or tastes?

It seems as though Si dominant users will simply connect stimuli/object/person A to stimuli/object/person B, without giving it much more thought. We all connect this detail to that and whatnot, but it seems you enjoy taking gulps of detailed information when the subject is meaningful. It also seems like you will look in between that grey area of connecting A to B. To question and make a home in that grey area seems more along the lines of an intuitive personality.

 

Exactly!, which is why I use Si a lot more then Se actually I just retook the test stating Si was my second strongest function, reason being is that I am very aware of my experiences, my past, I always reflect upon it and all the memmories I have had for hours, I just love to put all those details toguether into a picture, on the other hand, I fail at Se badl because well I failed to notice a lot of obvious things in my surroundings, and I am a very clumsy person lol, I keep on dropping everything, and my senses have screwed me up a lot of times.Also Ni is similar to Si in the sense that Ni interconnects past events with future possible events while Si does the same thing but in the present.

 

Ti is a judging function first of all, while Si is a perceiving one, we used Si to gather information from our experiences while we use Ti in our daily lives, Si is how we get the information, Ti is how we apply it.

 

Here is a potential scenario showing Si vs Se.

Two people see a co-worker walk by with a red sweater.

Si: "Wow ______ is actually wearing red! I have never noticed her wear red before. Come to think about it, I don't she has ever worn a sweater before!"

Se: "That sweater looks sooooo comfortable, I like that color of red too. I wonder what material it is made out of?"

 

I understand this.

This just came off as someone trying to further develop their less dominant functions. Ti is an exacting and system based function.

I was merely talking about the intake of information in the second bit.

 

I just wanted to point out that Se doesn't *always* mean being completely aware of your surroundings. I believe I have VERY strong Se, and at times I get caught up on one single thing, staring at a tree, or staring at a car, and I am just as clumsy as anyone else.

I have PLENTY of times I have been clumsy. I think in some cases it might be even easier for strong Se to be distracted. Although I am quite aware of others when I am standing in a line, I am always quick to make way for someone else.

 

Yeah it seems as though Se almost gets caught up in it self at times.

 

I'm aware of this however S and N are distracted in different ways..are you attracted to such thing by your senses? when I am distracted I pay attention to something and then make a scenerio about it in my head, an S on the other hand will start picking up the details, what color is it? what text is written on it?etc

 

Exactly, I just don't think a lot of the tests properly word how to interpret Se/Si which is why everyone underestimates it.

Perhaps I will write my own test one of these days.

 

This is me to a bloody "t," yet the cognitive tests all insist this is one of my weakest functions... hmm...

Exactly.

 

I would like to know what description or definition of Si the writers of the tests were using.

 

I have some Ne, if I see scars or imperfections, I wonder how they got there, what the story of the object is. But initially I simply observe.

 

interesting...

so what is the function I am using when I am in a drive thru line up, and I am in line with the way the traffic "should be placed", and when other drivers stray from the reasonable placement it almost ruins my mood? (talk about anal, lol).