Barnabas
Time Lord
- MBTI
- wiblywobly
- Enneagram
- timeywimey
The poit of this thread is for me to test out if I'm starting to grasp the concepts and rules(or lack there of) of philisophy.
I gladly welcome constructive criticism, how ever if your thoughts are along the lines of "oh look the little christian thinks he's a philosopher" then please keep said thoughts to yourself.
So feel free to rip me apart as long as you have the intention of rebuilding me.
I figured if I'm going to start i mas well start big and so i decided what could be bigger then God.
1st premise
A: the universe exist
B: things that exist have a cause of existence
conclusion: that the universe must logicaly has a cause of existence
2nd premise
A: the universe has a cause of existence
B: no thing is it's own cause of existence
Conclusion: the universe must of had cause of existence seperate from itself
3rd premise
A: the universe has a seperate casue of exsistence
B: a cause must be greater then it's effect
conclusion: the caue of the universe is greater then the universe
4th premise
A: energy is finite
B: causes require energy
Conclusion: the amount of causes must be finite
5th premise
A: all things have a cause
B: causes are things
Conclusion: all causes have a cause, there are an infinite amount of causes
6th
A: there are an infinite amount of causes
B: the amount of causes must be finite
Conclusion: contraditiction, there must be an initial cause that does not require energy, does not have a beginning, and is greater then its effect
7th
A: there is an initial cause that does not require energy, does not have a cause, does not have beginning, must be greater then it's effect(the universe)
Conclusion: this cause is God
I'd like to state that this has no bearing on any particular religion(but does have bearing on a large amount of religions) and at best is a diestic claim.
I gladly welcome constructive criticism, how ever if your thoughts are along the lines of "oh look the little christian thinks he's a philosopher" then please keep said thoughts to yourself.
So feel free to rip me apart as long as you have the intention of rebuilding me.
I figured if I'm going to start i mas well start big and so i decided what could be bigger then God.
1st premise
A: the universe exist
B: things that exist have a cause of existence
conclusion: that the universe must logicaly has a cause of existence
2nd premise
A: the universe has a cause of existence
B: no thing is it's own cause of existence
Conclusion: the universe must of had cause of existence seperate from itself
3rd premise
A: the universe has a seperate casue of exsistence
B: a cause must be greater then it's effect
conclusion: the caue of the universe is greater then the universe
4th premise
A: energy is finite
B: causes require energy
Conclusion: the amount of causes must be finite
5th premise
A: all things have a cause
B: causes are things
Conclusion: all causes have a cause, there are an infinite amount of causes
6th
A: there are an infinite amount of causes
B: the amount of causes must be finite
Conclusion: contraditiction, there must be an initial cause that does not require energy, does not have a beginning, and is greater then its effect
7th
A: there is an initial cause that does not require energy, does not have a cause, does not have beginning, must be greater then it's effect(the universe)
Conclusion: this cause is God
I'd like to state that this has no bearing on any particular religion(but does have bearing on a large amount of religions) and at best is a diestic claim.
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