Deeper understanding of the Enneagram & Triads

@VH: I think you are a 4w5, or possibly a 1w9 but I think 4w5 is better. You aren't nearly extroverted or dominating enough to be an 8. I tend to think 4 over 1. Reason being is I am definitely a 1 (1w2 so it's slightly different), and you don't have nearly the same perfectionism drive in you that I do. You let things go much easier and are ok with it. Relationships you hang on to, but that's a 4 trait more then anything. I am gonna go with 4w5. In particular after reading the stacks arby supplied.

 

Thanks. That was helpful.

I read the descriptions and the only thing I can say with certainty is that my Chiropractor is wrong. I'm not an 8.

1 and 4 both have a lot of merit. The person I used to be seems a lot more like a 1 sx/so with some 4 influence, and the person I am now seems a lot more like a 4 sx/so with some 1 influence. It was very odd reading such an accurate description of who I used to be. My best guess here is that either I've let go of some of the self defeating sensibilities of type 1 but still am a type 1 or because Enneagram is based on our inherent fears and how we deal with them that I've overcome the set of fears that drove me to be a type 1, and now am left with the motivations for type 4s, hence I've grown into a type 4. (and not a word about how people can't change, Indy! hehe)

 

I also don't get much of a type 1 vibe from you Von. To be honest, I understand how enneagram works in perfection. I get a very strong type 4 vibe from you though, followed by 9. You seem to take an easy going, friendly approach while still remaining a bit detached. You tend to stay away from big drama, you just want to help others in a peaceful way..I could be wrong though..just a feeling

 

The integration growth path of Four points to type One.

 

That was a very helpful breakdown, Arbygil. I believe the 3-6-9 triad fits me the most.

 

You actually do strike me as a 9, Arby.

 

That break up does not help me much.

I have always related to types 2,4 and 5 the most.

What I don't like about enneagram is that it forces you to be with a certain number, for example a type 3 must have a 4/2 wing and so on.

Though I could be wrong.

 

That's strange. I actually like the enneagram because I find it is much more fluid and flexible than MBTI. The wings reflect which triad that you share tendencies with and it builds a more comprehensive look at your personality in different situations. You're not forced into being just a 3w2, for example. That's just your core. Depending on how healthy of a 3 you are, you can share the positive or negative traits of a 6 or a 9. Your wing has a similar deal going on. You can share the negative or positive traits of an 8 or a 4. So you're actually covering broader ground and your personal range looks like 6-3-9 w 8-2-4.

 

Heh, its this exact fluidity with the system that makes me not like it nearly as much as MBTI. It's too wishy-washy and broad but it does explain things.

 

If you wanna call simultaneously reflecting the present and potential personality wishy-washy, then yep. But I'm also of the opinion that's also a quality of psychology in general; it's very much dynamic, not static. That being said, I was still able to peg you with some degree of accuracy, wasn't I? And I had an easier time of it than going through all your cognitive functions results.

And yeah, you are such a 1 sometimes it isn't funny. LOL.

 

I see now, the wings can be extended as well. So it is possible to maintain different characteristics from different types. Which brings me to the other side of the spectrum, finding your core self must be extremely hard. With all the possibilities and variety, how do we know for sure which type we are? I seen plenty of members, including myself going back and forth, changing types, attributing cognitive functions etc when in the end we just get into bigger confusion.

 

Oh I don't dislike it. I just don't study it as much as mbti because I don't see enough structure in it for me to work with it enough. It certainly is very useful though .

 

I don't think the idea is to find your core type forever and amen and be at peace with it. It's enough to figure out which triad you primarily seem to belong to and go from there.

 

That is indeed quite interesting, but a lot different then how tests portray it. You see some questions ask Are you calm? are you easy going? Yes, that is my main goal to create peace and to remain in tranquility, but due to circumstances I am NOT calm..which creates a conflict between my ideal self/ and my current reality. Type 6 will also described me in a negative way as it mentions questions regarding anxiety and being frequently worried. This does not arise from lack of perfectionism like a type 1, but from my constant feeling of being differently which is also attributed to type 4.,.therefore making me detached..