I'm curious as I hear a lot of people saying paul didn't teach right or wanted to destroy people through his teachings, mostly from a jewish or islamic perspective. Tell me specifically what's wrong with his teachings please
@Dr. Holly great post. There is nothing wrong with Paul's teaching.
Context is important, as the bible addresses three groups of people. Jews, Gentiles and the Church. In Acts, there is a transition period from Peter's ministry to Paul's... Peter is the apostle to the Jews. This is where the expression "robbing Peter to pay Paul" comes from. Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles as Antioch is a Gentile city and the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. I believe that people that say that there is something wrong with Paul's teachings are reading out of context scriptures that are addressed to a certain group of people.
That was a mess. That probably didn't make any sense.
Thanks so much CindyLou. Actually, your post made perfect sense (to me at least) and is absolutely correct. The Bible is not in chronological order always so it can be easy to take some things out of context. When that happens, it's a disaster and people begin to believe wrong ideas and form opinions based on those misunderstandings. We have seen so many false doctrines come to light and it's honestly scary to me that the truth can be twisted so much until it no longer even closely resembles the truth but is purely a lie. So many today (very sadly) think God is angry, wants to pour out His wrath or punish us when we don't do "XYZ" because of what some are erroneously teaching. (That belief comes from The Law that is no longer applicable today) It all comes back to the context of what God was saying and who He was actually speaking to. So definitely :thumb: up for you!
Speaking as a very liberal non-Christian, I've always been a bit turned off by the fact that he adds so many, I guess you'd call them, 'sharp edges' to Jesus's teachings. He's the one who condemned homosexuality, not Jesus. Jesus also appears rather progressive on gender equality; Paul isn't. Paul's the legit founder of Christianity, in some respects, which to me, as a Jew with a high opinion of Jesus's teachings, has always been a bit of a turn-off. Really, I just think Jesus seems like an INFP and Paul seems like an extra-meddlesome ESTJ. That's basically it.
Hi Brodskizzle,
I genuinely hope your day is going well! Very interesting post and I don't mean that sarcastically.
I respect your point of view 100% so please know that anything I ask is sincere. I really enjoy understanding someone else's ideas/opinions/points of view. I'd really like to know where you're coming from better, if you feel like responding.
I'm curious what has made you feel this way about Paul? (Homosexuality, Gender equality, etc) Was it something you read, heard, etc? Obviously the Bible does speak in great detail of Paul's ministry as he wrote a good portion of the New Testament. So I was wondering if perhaps Scripture from the Bible led you to feel/believe this way? I'm also very curious regarding the comparison between Jesus and Paul as well from how you see it? Do you feel that Paul was wrong, having been born a Jew to then adopt the teachings and revelations from God to go and minister to the Gentiles?
I'm just very interested in your thoughts on this Take care!
Aah, but it's not always that black/white, isn't it?If I were not mistaken, I would think you are saying the Bible is flawed; ambiguos at the least. I also read you think Jesus' words are subject to flaws. You at least said "if" their words were biased. One of the twelve was even doubtful at times.
Metaphors aside, the tree has been shaken and shaken time and time again. That which remains is unshakeable. One simply cannot leave the Holy Spirit out of this, either. The tree of life is still standing.
If a group of people cannot write something without all these perceived shortcomings, what does that say about our mentality? Maybe wikipedia should be dismantled. bad analogy
They seem to always kill the messenger, it seems.
Which.It seems as if women were treated very well by the Messenger.
back to Paul...
Yes.I'm glad you have shared your thoughts & opinions too! I do love your user-title, "find wisdom, build hope." Also, I know this is completely random, so I apologize, but you are so mean!! - I say that because your avatar looks so delicious that I am craving a cupcake some kind of terrible right now! :lol: Did you have to do that to me?? :tongue: