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    My wife is an INFP, and so, when I want a rational conversation, I seek INTJs, but since I don't know any in real-life, my INFJ kids and I must do our best to navigate my sweet wife's illogical statements--though we know she has wonderful, kind, honest intent! :-D
     
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    Wow, are all of your kids INFJ? What a family?
     
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    Yep, we're an interesting crew! :-D
     
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    I was just joking :p
     
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    I wasn't bothered! :-D

    No worries! :-D
     
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    i just talked on the phone with my ISFP grandmother and it's always fascinating to see how much she reminds me of my INTJ friend when talking about emotions.

    What I like about her is that she sees things clearly. She doesn't pretend things are fine. My other ISFJ grandmother is willfuly blind and likes to create a happy united feeling when the whole family gathers, but the ISFP one simply doesn't care for that. It is very obvious that she dislikes certain family members, and she tells them. Like, everyone knows.

    She is sensitive, yet very forceful with her feelings (probably due to Se). And that really reminds me of INTJs.

    I think her approach is much better, Her judgements are very accurate and in the long term it doesn't serve anyone to pretend. I really hate this Fe pretending scene. Like, our family obviously has problems. I don't wanna gather and laugh at stupid jokes from an ESTP uncle.

    The whola gamma quadra is interesting (INTJ, ENTJ, ISFP, ESFP). Probaby my favorite.
     
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    "Willfully blind" - what a way to sum up ISFJ type (I'd say the same for ISTJ).

    I wonder @philostam, in regards to Extraverted feeling. I wonder if you don't like because you think the function is "fake" or "useless"? I always wondered this about INTPs, like they have some strange aversion to extroverted feeling, but also seem kind of fascinated by it.
     
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    The worst idea of a dinner ever, lol. I'm glad there's no ESTP in my family.

    Usually I'd pre-emptively find a very good excuse not to attend if I know that I'm most likely going to have a terrible time.
     
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    No, I really like Fe. I love NFJs and think it's amazing to be diplomatic, to be engaging towards others, ask them questions, create a good amtoshpere etc. I love to be in the company of good Fe users (usually NFJs).

    But Fe combined with Si is soooo weak sometimes. They are blind, they cannot read the cues, they are just following some pre-set patterns. To be a good Fe user, you have to be a bit more adaptable and you have to able to read the body language of others (Se).

    Also, I find SFJs always demand kindness back. I feel like they are keeping score. Get out of here with this.

    SFJs are also needy and jealous, they need attention etc. All annoying as hell. The ESFJs I know are a bit better - at least they are a bit more quirky and funny,

    I am sure there are good ones out there, but the ones I've met - no thanks.

    And I fricking hate it when my ISFJ grandma tells me stories about her travels and all the sensory details. I don't care about it and I don't wanna see the pictures. NFJs would never just start talking about it, and if they did, they would quickly realize that I do not care. But ISFJs...my god. :sleeping::screamcat:
     
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    That's true. I do that.
     
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    Oh come on...don't tell me you don't savor long drawn out stories about how long it took her to eat breakfast on Monday at 8am or how she picked her particular brand of toothpaste! {lol...jk ;) } I know what you mean...
     
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    My mum is ESFJ and a more loving person you cannot hope to meet. It's true that she needs reciprocation, but she doesn't ask for it, and who doesn't?
     
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    It’s worth looking at the Enneagram alongside mbti type. You describe struggling E2 types very well - people who need paying for the warmth they give.

    Any serious competence with Fe is bound to take into account the reaction of people within range and adjust accordingly. S people should be better at this than Ns because they are more in-the-moment.

    Just thinking sideways - I wonder if incompetent but prominent Fe actually shows it in inferior mode, implying that the true stack item is Ti dominant instead.
     
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    I dont really care what a persons' type is. I am concerned about what kind of human being are they.
     
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    I think it is the Fe dominants, with sensing, that are more likely to pretend everything is fine. I think it would go something along the lines of ESFJ, ISFJ/ENFJ, and then INFJ, Fe auxillary is more nuanced and subtle, and also has a pretty good grasp of Fi, it is just not preferred. This makes sense as IFJs are introverts and tailor more toward individuals than groups, even if group harmony is important.
     
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    My mother and brother are ISFJs, and we're enemies for many reasons, but the reasons you expressed above concerning ISFJs are some of those reasons. I don't desire to be enemies with any family-members, BUT, "it is what it is"!

    My father I've not seen in a very long time, but if my memory is correct, he's an ESTP--and all STs drive me nuts.

    Philostam, I think your description of SFJs is the most accurate I have read in a while.
     
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    Regarding always being right...

    Is it possible INTJs feel this way because they are never completly wrong either? For complex issues of course, not factual checks that are either true or false.
    Then, could we say that a wrong INTJ is in fact an INTJ that doesn't take enough into account?
     
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