What (Ennea)type do I come across as?

I'm mostly interested in Enneagram types, if you are aware of the system, but feel free to comment on MBTI too.

I thought I was type 4, then thought I was type 5, then retook the test as objectively as possible and still got significantly higher on type 4, with type 9 a somewhat close second. So I thought perhaps I'm actually a type 9, considering type 9's pretty often get their own type wrong.



I find it hard to believe I'm not one of those three types, considering I'm quite withdrawn.

ETA: If you think I'm probably either 5 or 9, but definitely not 4 for example, you can just pick both. That perspective is also valuable to know about.

ETA2: I have removed the link I posted and have added relevant posts below.
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Test results (latest):
Type One: 17
Type Two: 13
Type Three: 12
Type Four: 26
Type Five: 19
Type Six: 19
Type Seven: 10
Type Eight: 6
Type Nine: 22

 

Yeah, that's the jist of why I decided I was fooling myself about being a four, minus the retaking tests part (which I disagree with). It's really just the second time I've taken a good one.

EDIT: See below.

 

Typing Information

I thought I'd take a few minutes to coalesce something which would make typing me easier. Below are posts that I think characterize me.

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Okay, here's some material I've posted around the forums:

In response to sacrificing happiness:

On Nihilism:

In response to "Do you find that stepping too carefully around people has the opposite effect?":

On self-imposed rules:

Response to Shai/Chaz Support Thread:

In response to " Do you like it when someone takes care of you?":

(and after more had posted)

Random comments:

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Older material from a completely different forum:

(In response to a silly discussion about "do real men pee while sitting down" after I tried to get someone to distinguish the rule for sitting.):

On the meaning of life:

In response to "What motivators do you use in order to make yourself want to exercise?":

On unconditional love:

I'm guessing I'll be perceived as a type 5, but I'm curious to see what others say first.

 

Ah, I should have added an option for the instinctual variants too.

The question for that would be whether I'm sp/sx or sp/so. I value relationships more than social connection, but it seems to be the case that "sx" relates to assertive traits, whereas "so" relates to compliant traits, and if anything I've been more compliant than assertive over the course of my life.

Thoughts on that would be appreciated as well.

 

Thanks for the analysis TDHT.

I guess the question I'd have to raise is, "capable in what regard?" I don't mind being inept at many things that people say I should find "important", but I do feel that not being capable at anything is a problem.

However, I guess when it comes down to it, I am concerned about the type of person I have been. I think more than anything else, I try to be the best kind of person I can be, regardless of whether that means I'm dedicating my life to others or performing the most meaningful act I can with my life.

 

But there's so much more good in life than happiness. I guess we'd have to get into the issue of what exactly we mean by happiness. There are so many experiences that people wouldn't classify as 'happiness', but there's something precious to them all the same.

 

Hey, I've never seen these descriptions before.

Between these two, my difference with 4w5 is that I really don't have a "this is me, so deal with it" attitude. I don't change myself to please others, but I do have a strong tendency to second-guess myself. Everything else is pretty accurate. The 4w3, I can relate to somewhat, but most of it doesn't resonate strongly with me.

And I don't mind the negativity. I think the negative traits help characterize better, considering I can see my own negative traits quite clearly, and will be pretty quick to deny negative traits that aren't descriptive of me.
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I suppose my case for type 9, considering that no one has mentioned that yet, would be the fact that I often have difficulty knowing what I want when I am being friendly with someone else (i.e. socializing and not keeping my distance through cold detachment). I have difficulty mediating between my own wants and others, such that I tend to go along with my friends if I'm undecided on something. That being said, if someone suggests something and I know I don't want to have anything to do with it, there's no question of whether I'll hide that dissent.

ETA: Also, this is getting back into possible conflicts between enneatype and MBTI, but aside from being rather detatched and intellectual I don't relate a whole lot to type 5. Then again, these are pretty defining traits of a type 5.

So far, 4w5 is sounding quite accurate (again), though that description seems a lot more well-defined and focused than I am.

 

Well, I would certainly prefer that people all enjoy any decided upon activity, and I am somewhat bothered by dissonance in preference (when there's clearly a group atmosphere), but for me it's definitely the four-type explanation that fits best. In any case other than just deciding what to do, deciding what I think (or want for myself) is most important.

I will say that I'm pretty sure 9w1 is in my tri-type.

I have picked up on this as well. Any thoughts jump out to you as to why?

Ironically, I don't think I'll really come to a definite conclusion on this issue either, but I appreciate all the responses.

ETA: I say that because regardless of how I'm perceived, I can see a part of myself in all three of these types. It could be that it would all make sense in terms of wings and tritype, but I doubt that.

 

[MENTION=1601]Tulip[/MENTION]: Well, yeah. It's pretty similar to the descriptions I read initially, and that's what I identified with in the first place (this thread), but when someone brings serious doubts to your analysis you (at least I do) make sure you aren't deluding yourself, especially since I did exactly that with MBTI and turned out to be pretty wrong. (INFJ =/= INTP)

That being said, I took the time to read this description. It's not perfect, but it's still closer than the descriptions I've read of any other types. I can see a problem regarding the 'feeling' center, considering that oftentimes my feeling response seems very quiet, but when they are there I definitely identify with them. This would probably point to my heart triad not being my primary.

My problem with your argument is not that I disagree with the points you are bringing up, but rather that it is a completely negative one in that you're saying I'm not a four. Sure, I can find good reasons why I'm not any of the types, as none of them fit perfectly. For example, I am rather introspective and cerebral (type 5), but I'm not particularly concerned about competence, nor do I seem as inquisitive and enamored with knowledge as 5's seem to be. For type 9, I have been rather easy-going and have had difficulty defining myself, but in the process I've intentionally cut myself off from nearly everything. And for type 4, I agree with nearly all type 4 sentiments and desires, but I clearly have a lower degree of feeling, and a lower confidence in my own identity and my ability to see myself as I am.