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I think it's a good idea to be careful about vaccines because you never know what's in them. Look no further than the nearly 100 million people who received the Polio vaccine which was contaminated with a virus which actually is known to cause Cancer. This has been admitted by the CDC. That is 1/3 of the current American population. If you're interested in more about this, you can of course google about it and you will see a plethora of hits all over the place from reputable sources and even websites some many consider to be "conspiracy." But the facts are there.
There are some vaccines which I am against - anything flu or HPV related really makes me turn my nose up. There are some things your immune system is built to fight against, and there are other things that even a healthy immune system can't battle and thus needs a little help.
I am just as put off about vaccines as I am about antibiotics. It's so important to understand the body and how it works and why vaccines are important and how they work within the body. I think it's also important to have an understanding how these viruses spread so that we can appropriately safeguard ourselves against illness instead of swallowing whatever they tell us will "fix the problem."
There are some vaccines which I am against - anything flu or HPV related really makes me turn my nose up. There are some things your immune system is built to fight against, and there are other things that even a healthy immune system can't battle and thus needs a little help.
I am just as put off about vaccines as I am about antibiotics. It's so important to understand the body and how it works and why vaccines are important and how they work within the body. I think it's also important to have an understanding how these viruses spread so that we can appropriately safeguard ourselves against illness instead of swallowing whatever they tell us will "fix the problem."
So what your saying is that the CDC is honest with the public when they discover that one of their vaccines won't be as effective this year as it was year before due to a unpredicted new strain of the flu virus that was discovered this winter, way after they started production in March for this flu season? I appreciate them letting us know.
Something like that cannot be predicted with 100% accuracy. We are all aware that they aren't psychics. They do the best they can. I'm glad they gave us the heads up.
"Current flu vaccines are built to protect against three or four different kinds of flu virus, depending on the product. The ingredients are selected very early in the year, based on predictions of what strains will circulate the following winter.
The ingredients always include a Type A H3N2 flu virus. The most severe flu seasons tend to be dominated by some version of that kind of flu bug. The three most deadly flu seasons of the last 10 years – in the winters of 2003-2004, 2007-2008, and 2012-2013 – were H3N2 seasons.
In March, after the H3N2 vaccine strain was vaccine production was underway, health officials noted the appearance new and different strain of H3N2. "This is not something that's been around before," Frieden said.
But health officials weren't sure if the new strain would become a significant problem in the United States this winter until recently, they said. Lab specimens from patients have shown that the most commonly seen flu bug so far is the new strain of H3N2. Specifically, about 48 percent of the H3N2 samples seen so far were well matched to what's in the vaccine, but 52 percent were not, the CDC said."
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/bbd...u-Vaccine/id-c7d917644f3e401e97277cc6bd15950a
Something like that cannot be predicted with 100% accuracy. We are all aware that they aren't psychics. They do the best they can. I'm glad they gave us the heads up.
"Current flu vaccines are built to protect against three or four different kinds of flu virus, depending on the product. The ingredients are selected very early in the year, based on predictions of what strains will circulate the following winter.
The ingredients always include a Type A H3N2 flu virus. The most severe flu seasons tend to be dominated by some version of that kind of flu bug. The three most deadly flu seasons of the last 10 years – in the winters of 2003-2004, 2007-2008, and 2012-2013 – were H3N2 seasons.
In March, after the H3N2 vaccine strain was vaccine production was underway, health officials noted the appearance new and different strain of H3N2. "This is not something that's been around before," Frieden said.
But health officials weren't sure if the new strain would become a significant problem in the United States this winter until recently, they said. Lab specimens from patients have shown that the most commonly seen flu bug so far is the new strain of H3N2. Specifically, about 48 percent of the H3N2 samples seen so far were well matched to what's in the vaccine, but 52 percent were not, the CDC said."
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/bbd...u-Vaccine/id-c7d917644f3e401e97277cc6bd15950a
So the CDC finally admitted their vaccine doesn;t work after a scandal began to brew after 14 people DIED from the vaccine in Italy
Shame the CDC can only be honest after people have died and their necks are on the line
But they are balanced out by the many honest campaigners who are helping to spread vaccine awareness
Shame the CDC can only be honest after people have died and their necks are on the line
But they are balanced out by the many honest campaigners who are helping to spread vaccine awareness
http://www.collective-evolution.com...cine-caused-autism-us-media-blacks-out-story/
[h=1]Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story[/h] May 8, 2013 by Joe Martino. 672 Comments.
The debate over vaccines continues as an Italian court ruled in favor of the Bocca family whose nine-year-old son became autistic after receiving the MMR (Measles/Mumps & Rubella) vaccine. I came across this case and felt it was a good idea to report on this as the vaccine debate has been a hot topic here lately. Although the case concluded in 2012, the information is just as relevant today. UPDATE: We realize the controversy surrounding Wakefield and his study. Please also note that the story about Wakefield being paid to create data to due vaccine makers is a false story. At the time of this false story, vaccine makers were protected from even being able to be sued. He obviously can see no benefit in creating a “fake study” to sue people that cannot be sued. Instead of focusing on Wakefield, observe the other studies involved and the massive growing movement to re-think vaccines based on science and evidence. We also recognize that Autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning that there is a wide range in how it affects people. A phenomenon due to vaccines could account for some type of Autism on that spectrum. On the other hand we recognize that there could be be some genetic differences within ones DNA that could result in showing behavior and other types of characteristics seen in what we have labelled as Autism or ASD. Autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning that there is a wide degree of variation in the way it affects people.
Valentino Bocca was given the MMR vaccine when he was 15 months old in 2004. The family has stated that immediately after the jab their son began showing signs of serious discomfort. The Bocca family decided to act and took the case to court. Judges determined the vaccine did cause the autism after new evidence was presented and awarded the Bocca family 174,000 euro (£140,000) after the Italian Health Ministry conceded the MMR vaccine caused autism in their nine-year-old son Valentino. After the ruling, Italian lawyers began examining around 100 similar cases which they believe could lead to more families pursuing court cases. Of course this case does not come with two sides to the argument. In Britain, doctors and health experts insist that the onset of autism after the vaccine was merely a coincidence and that other children develop autism around the same time. The official statement of the Department of Health is that ‘there is a wealth of evidence showing children who receive the MMR vaccine are no more at risk of autism than those who don’t.’ The Bocca case is not the first case where children have been allegedly damaged by vaccines. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has paid out over $2 billion in compensation to families who have been damaged by vaccines. The Bocca case ruling will likely re-open much debate over vaccine safety and effectiveness. This was largely made popular when the respected medical journal The Lancet published an article in 1998, making a connection between the triple vaccine and autism. Later on, the author’s methods were discredited but this of course came with controversy as well. Luckily, the news of it alone was enough for families to re-question the vaccine when thinking of their children. Though the debate is still ongoing, many people are seriously questioning vaccines and this isn’t just the average person. Medical doctors have been educating themselves further on vaccines as the evidence continues to pile up about the ineffectiveness and lack of safety associated with vaccines. The number of autism cases has risen greatly since the 1970s, as the number of vaccines a child receives continues to rise dramatically. Although it is not yet clear what the new evidence was that concluded the Bocca case, it is almost certain that it will continue to build the case for re-thinking vaccines. The black out in US media is a prime example of how much medical information is censored in North America. This may add to the fact that it seems North America is a lot more unaware of healthy practices regarding medicine, lifestyle and diet. Of course this isn’t to say that everyone is like this in North America, but when you look at the numbers we can see that North America is among the unhealthiest when it comes to developed countries. A great example of how the medical industry tends to avoid new vaccine science comes in the case of Dr. Andrew Wakefield. He has been involved in extensively reviewing the MMR vaccine and its safety, and has found not only some scary results, but also a great opposition and blacking out when it comes to the medical field looking at his evidence. The videos below go into this story in depth.
The following is from Dr. Mercola “It’s virtually impossible to read an article about the MMR vaccine without coming across a reference to British gastroenterologist Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s 1998 research published in The Lancet, which suggested there may be a link between the MMR vaccine, chronic bowel disease and autism. Ever since the article’s publication, it has remained one of the most cited yet controversial studies on the topic of vaccine safety. Few public health officials or doctors speaking about vaccination in the media today fail to drive home the point that Wakefield’s research was subsequently “discredited” by the General Medical Council in Britain, while completely ignoring the facts about what his research actually showed, and the long list of studies done since then by other researchers that back up his initial findings. Dr. Wakefield’s 1998 study involved a retrospective case series analysis, which essentially reviews the clinical histories of a group of patients with a constellation of signs and symptoms that link them together and create a pattern. In this case, it was a group of autistic children with gastrointestinal problems, which led to the discovery of a novel bowel disease that Wakefield and his colleagues at the Royal Free Hospital in London first described. But rather than celebrating the discovery of a tangible, treatable and potentially preventable serious health problem that could help those suffering with similar health issues, Wakefield’s discovery became a hotly debated controversy in which Dr. Wakefield’s personal and professional reputation was smeared. Why? Because the clinical story didn’t end with bowel disease; it also included symptoms of regressive autism after receiving the MMR vaccine… In the years following his 1998 finding, which linked the MMR vaccine to inflammatory bowel disease and symptoms of autism, Dr. Wakefield published another 19 papers on the vaccine-induced bowel disorder. All were peer reviewed, and none have been retracted. However, none of these 19 papers are ever discussed in the media. The only study that keeps seeing the light of day is the original Lancet article from 1998. Another interesting fact is that, since that study, a large number of replication studies have been performed around the world, by other researchers, that confirm Wakefield’s initial findings. Yet you never hear a word about those either!”
Sources: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/04/10/wakefield-interview.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/25/mmr-vaccine-caused-autism.aspx http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ter-award-over-child-with-autism-7858596.html
For video clips click on link above
[h=1]Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story[/h] May 8, 2013 by Joe Martino. 672 Comments.
The debate over vaccines continues as an Italian court ruled in favor of the Bocca family whose nine-year-old son became autistic after receiving the MMR (Measles/Mumps & Rubella) vaccine. I came across this case and felt it was a good idea to report on this as the vaccine debate has been a hot topic here lately. Although the case concluded in 2012, the information is just as relevant today. UPDATE: We realize the controversy surrounding Wakefield and his study. Please also note that the story about Wakefield being paid to create data to due vaccine makers is a false story. At the time of this false story, vaccine makers were protected from even being able to be sued. He obviously can see no benefit in creating a “fake study” to sue people that cannot be sued. Instead of focusing on Wakefield, observe the other studies involved and the massive growing movement to re-think vaccines based on science and evidence. We also recognize that Autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning that there is a wide range in how it affects people. A phenomenon due to vaccines could account for some type of Autism on that spectrum. On the other hand we recognize that there could be be some genetic differences within ones DNA that could result in showing behavior and other types of characteristics seen in what we have labelled as Autism or ASD. Autism is a spectrum disorder, meaning that there is a wide degree of variation in the way it affects people.
The following is from Dr. Mercola “It’s virtually impossible to read an article about the MMR vaccine without coming across a reference to British gastroenterologist Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s 1998 research published in The Lancet, which suggested there may be a link between the MMR vaccine, chronic bowel disease and autism. Ever since the article’s publication, it has remained one of the most cited yet controversial studies on the topic of vaccine safety. Few public health officials or doctors speaking about vaccination in the media today fail to drive home the point that Wakefield’s research was subsequently “discredited” by the General Medical Council in Britain, while completely ignoring the facts about what his research actually showed, and the long list of studies done since then by other researchers that back up his initial findings. Dr. Wakefield’s 1998 study involved a retrospective case series analysis, which essentially reviews the clinical histories of a group of patients with a constellation of signs and symptoms that link them together and create a pattern. In this case, it was a group of autistic children with gastrointestinal problems, which led to the discovery of a novel bowel disease that Wakefield and his colleagues at the Royal Free Hospital in London first described. But rather than celebrating the discovery of a tangible, treatable and potentially preventable serious health problem that could help those suffering with similar health issues, Wakefield’s discovery became a hotly debated controversy in which Dr. Wakefield’s personal and professional reputation was smeared. Why? Because the clinical story didn’t end with bowel disease; it also included symptoms of regressive autism after receiving the MMR vaccine… In the years following his 1998 finding, which linked the MMR vaccine to inflammatory bowel disease and symptoms of autism, Dr. Wakefield published another 19 papers on the vaccine-induced bowel disorder. All were peer reviewed, and none have been retracted. However, none of these 19 papers are ever discussed in the media. The only study that keeps seeing the light of day is the original Lancet article from 1998. Another interesting fact is that, since that study, a large number of replication studies have been performed around the world, by other researchers, that confirm Wakefield’s initial findings. Yet you never hear a word about those either!”
Sources: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/04/10/wakefield-interview.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/25/mmr-vaccine-caused-autism.aspx http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ter-award-over-child-with-autism-7858596.html
For video clips click on link above
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30240620
Italy suspends Fluad flu vaccine from Novartis after deaths
It's a real shame for US americans that their government won't protect them as quickly as the Italian government has and in fact only reacted once another government did
This is not only a problem for the health of the affected people but also because many US americans seem to not believe any information that doesn't come from government sources
This is particualrly absurd to those who keep a close eye on events because they know how corrupt the US government is, how often it lies and how the big pharma lobby is the most powerful
This means that some people are putting themselves in a consciousness catch-22 situtation where they will only accept the truth from people who have no interest in giving them the truth (unless they are caught red-handed when they then resort to PR damage limitation exercises); the original americans who threw off the control of the british central bank would be spinning in their graves to see how americans are once again under the control of the central bankers and their offshoot corporations in big pharma
Hopefully as more information emerges these people can stop hanging onto the coat-tails of the nanny state and become independently minded adults able to think for themselves
Italy suspends Fluad flu vaccine from Novartis after deaths
It's a real shame for US americans that their government won't protect them as quickly as the Italian government has and in fact only reacted once another government did
This is not only a problem for the health of the affected people but also because many US americans seem to not believe any information that doesn't come from government sources
This is particualrly absurd to those who keep a close eye on events because they know how corrupt the US government is, how often it lies and how the big pharma lobby is the most powerful
This means that some people are putting themselves in a consciousness catch-22 situtation where they will only accept the truth from people who have no interest in giving them the truth (unless they are caught red-handed when they then resort to PR damage limitation exercises); the original americans who threw off the control of the british central bank would be spinning in their graves to see how americans are once again under the control of the central bankers and their offshoot corporations in big pharma
Hopefully as more information emerges these people can stop hanging onto the coat-tails of the nanny state and become independently minded adults able to think for themselves
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/studies-find-flu-shots-can-harm-your-heart-infant-and-fetus/5418251
[h=2]Studies Find Flu Shots Can Harm Your Heart, Infant And Fetus[/h] By Sayer Ji
Global Research, December 06, 2014
GreenMedInfo 17 January 2013
Updated December 5, 2014
Flu vaccines, according to the best scientific evidence available today, will only work against 10% of the circulating viruses that cause the symptoms of seasonal epidemic influenza. Additionally, flu vaccines have been found to elicit inflammatory reactions that may harm the human heart, the developing fetus, and the fragile immune systems of our infants. So, do the theoretical benefits really outweigh the known harms?
In a recent article, The Shocking Lack of Evidence Supporting Flu Vaccines, we addressed the surprising lack of empirical evidence supporting the use of flu vaccines in the prevention of seasonal influenza, in children under two, healthy adults, the elderly, and healthcare workers who care for the elderly.
The reality is that vaccines not only do not work as advertised, but they represent a significant health threat, likely on the same order of magnitude as influenza itself, due to their well-known role in compromising immunological self-tolerance (autoimmunity), as well as by eliciting a wide range of adverse health effects associated with the use of adjuvants, preservatives, foreign animal DNA and cell byproducts, adventitious viruses, and other so-called “inactive ingredients,” including even the unnatural route and method of antigen administration itself.
Basic Virology Facts Reveal Trivalent Flu Vaccines Are At Best 10% Effective
But it shouldn’t take expensive, elaborate, time-consuming research to grasp the obvious limitations in effectiveness of flu vaccines from the perspective of this fundamental fact of influenza virology:
“Science-Based” Medicine Unwilling To Look At Empirical Evidence On Vaccine Harms
Similarly, were those self-avowed “skeptics,” and would-be advocates of “science-based medicine,” who claim vaccinating is always safer and more effective than not vaccinating, to acknowledge research indicating the limitations and increasing failings of vaccination, as well as the value of natural influenza flu alternatives,* they might someday earn the right to use powerful-sounding words like “Science” and “Evidence” in their crusade against your access to the empirical truth and your right to bodily self-possession, i.e. your right to make free and informed decisions for yourself to engage or disengage from medical interventions, that carry a known risk of harm and even death.
The reality is that many top biomedical journals cannot and will not suppress the truth concerning the many unintended, adverse health effects of vaccines. This would, after all, be both immoral and illegal, especially when human lives, and particularly the lives of our most vulnerable, our children, are on the line. In other words, by publishing empirical research that shows vaccines are not safe and effective a priori, many thwart the party line, as represented by the policies and official statements of the CDC, the FDA, and the ACIP, and many online skeptic bloggers (anti-anti-vaccine groups, if you will; most whom fail to grasp the foolishness of such a dialectic, since they rarely take a critical look in the mirror) who claim those refusing vaccines, or educating about their harms, are guilty of crimes, or have blood on their hands.
Flu Vaccines Found To Increase Heart Attack Risk
For example, a concerning study published in 2011 in the International Journal of Medicinerevealed a fact rarely addressed by conventional health authorities, or the mostly uncritical mainstream media, namely: flu vaccines result in inflammatory cardiovascular changes indicative of increased risk for serious heart-related events such as heart attack.[ii]
Titled, “Inflammation-related effects of adjuvant influenza A vaccination on platelet activation and cardiac autonomic function,” their study concluded:
This study is not, however, the first to raise concern over states of pathological inflammation caused by flu vaccines, and vaccines in general. In 2011, the journal Vaccine published a study titled, “Inflammatory responses to trivalent influenza virus vaccine among pregnant women,” which found that flu vaccination causes measurable increases in inflammation in pregnant women which may increase the risk of preeclempsia and other adverse outcomes such as preterm birth.[iii] In this study both CRP and tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-α levels increased to concerning levels between one to two days after vaccination. Should we be surprised, considering flu vaccines still contain highly inflammatory, neurotoxic and immunotoxic heavy metals, such as mercury-based thimerosal? Even when the precautionary principle is employed, and mercury-based adjuvants removed in tacit recognition of its profound dangers, aluminum hydroxide is then used to replace it, injected directly into the bodies of healthy infants in the name of synthetically modifying and “improving” their immunity (see: Can We Continue To Justify Injecting Aluminum Into Children?).
And so, despite the fact that vaccine-induced disruption and dysregulation of a pregnant woman’s immune system could compromise her pregnancy, resulting in birth defects[iv] and miscarriage (which is a well-known phenomena within the veterinary field: vaccine-induced abortion), the CDC has defied both common sense and the precautionary principle by urging pregnant women to receive flu vaccines, without informing them of their true risks.
Infants At Risk of Pathological Inflammation Following Vaccines
Just as disturbing is the CDC’s recommendation that all infants, six months or older, receive flu vaccines on top of an already burgeoning vaccination schedule, which begins at the day of birth with the STD vaccine containing hepatitis B surface antigen, despite clear evidence that infants experience cardiorespiratory complications and C-reactive protein responses as a result of all vaccines, administered either singularly or simultaneously in combination. One 2007 study published in the Journal of Pediatrics, found that 85% of newborn infants experienced abnormal elevations of CRP when administered multiple vaccines and up to 70% in those given a single vaccine. Also, overall, 16% of infants were reported to experience vaccine-associated cardiorespiratory events within 48 hours postimmunization. [v]
Suffice it to say, vaccinating against the flu (or any pathogen) is not as safe and effective as we are being told. But please do not adopt my opinion on the matter as your own. Do your own research, and feel free to review some of the underreported and/or otherwise suppressed research on vaccination we have collated at our Vaccine Research and Education page.
*Never mind the timelessly and often cross-culturally confirmed and reconfirmed evidence contained within “orally transmitted” traditional, plant-based medical systems, used the world over.
Resources
[h=2]Studies Find Flu Shots Can Harm Your Heart, Infant And Fetus[/h] By Sayer Ji
Global Research, December 06, 2014
GreenMedInfo 17 January 2013
Updated December 5, 2014
Flu vaccines, according to the best scientific evidence available today, will only work against 10% of the circulating viruses that cause the symptoms of seasonal epidemic influenza. Additionally, flu vaccines have been found to elicit inflammatory reactions that may harm the human heart, the developing fetus, and the fragile immune systems of our infants. So, do the theoretical benefits really outweigh the known harms?
In a recent article, The Shocking Lack of Evidence Supporting Flu Vaccines, we addressed the surprising lack of empirical evidence supporting the use of flu vaccines in the prevention of seasonal influenza, in children under two, healthy adults, the elderly, and healthcare workers who care for the elderly.
The reality is that vaccines not only do not work as advertised, but they represent a significant health threat, likely on the same order of magnitude as influenza itself, due to their well-known role in compromising immunological self-tolerance (autoimmunity), as well as by eliciting a wide range of adverse health effects associated with the use of adjuvants, preservatives, foreign animal DNA and cell byproducts, adventitious viruses, and other so-called “inactive ingredients,” including even the unnatural route and method of antigen administration itself.
Basic Virology Facts Reveal Trivalent Flu Vaccines Are At Best 10% Effective
But it shouldn’t take expensive, elaborate, time-consuming research to grasp the obvious limitations in effectiveness of flu vaccines from the perspective of this fundamental fact of influenza virology:
Over 200 viruses cause influenza and influenza-like illness which produce the same symptoms (fever, headache, aches and pains, cough and runny noses). Without laboratory tests, doctors cannot tell the two illnesses apart. Both last for days and rarely lead to death or serious illness. At best, vaccines might be effective against only Influenza A and B, which represent about 10% of all circulating viruses.” (Source: Cochrane Summaries).
Indeed, if facts like these were not so commonly ignored or denied, and it was the actuallyclinically-confirmed, unequivocal “evidence” that drove the so-called “evidence-based” medical system into its annual, seasonal influenza-induced, frenzy of pro-vaccine propagandizing and proselytizing, we might look at this ritual of mass vaccination as something other than just a profit-, policy-, and, for the masses, faith-based indoctrination, which sadly it has become.
“Science-Based” Medicine Unwilling To Look At Empirical Evidence On Vaccine Harms
Similarly, were those self-avowed “skeptics,” and would-be advocates of “science-based medicine,” who claim vaccinating is always safer and more effective than not vaccinating, to acknowledge research indicating the limitations and increasing failings of vaccination, as well as the value of natural influenza flu alternatives,* they might someday earn the right to use powerful-sounding words like “Science” and “Evidence” in their crusade against your access to the empirical truth and your right to bodily self-possession, i.e. your right to make free and informed decisions for yourself to engage or disengage from medical interventions, that carry a known risk of harm and even death.
The reality is that many top biomedical journals cannot and will not suppress the truth concerning the many unintended, adverse health effects of vaccines. This would, after all, be both immoral and illegal, especially when human lives, and particularly the lives of our most vulnerable, our children, are on the line. In other words, by publishing empirical research that shows vaccines are not safe and effective a priori, many thwart the party line, as represented by the policies and official statements of the CDC, the FDA, and the ACIP, and many online skeptic bloggers (anti-anti-vaccine groups, if you will; most whom fail to grasp the foolishness of such a dialectic, since they rarely take a critical look in the mirror) who claim those refusing vaccines, or educating about their harms, are guilty of crimes, or have blood on their hands.
Flu Vaccines Found To Increase Heart Attack Risk
For example, a concerning study published in 2011 in the International Journal of Medicinerevealed a fact rarely addressed by conventional health authorities, or the mostly uncritical mainstream media, namely: flu vaccines result in inflammatory cardiovascular changes indicative of increased risk for serious heart-related events such as heart attack.[ii]
Titled, “Inflammation-related effects of adjuvant influenza A vaccination on platelet activation and cardiac autonomic function,” their study concluded:
Together with an inflammatory reaction, influenza A vaccine induced platelet activation and sympathovagal imbalance towards adrenergic predominance. Significant correlations were found between CRP [C-reactive protein) levels and HRV [heart rate variability] parameters, suggesting a pathophysiological link between inflammation and cardiac autonomic regulation. The vaccine-related platelet activation and cardiac autonomic dysfunction may transiently increase the risk of cardiovascular events.
The four main areas of concern mentioned above are:
- Platelet Activation: An indicator of increased risk for pathological clotting and/or obstruction of a blood vessel, e.g. heart attack, embolism or stroke.
- Sympathovagal imbalance towards adrenergic predominance: An indication of disturbed autonomic regulation within the heart.
- Elevation of C-Reactive Protein: An indicator of inflammation-mediated cardiovascular disease risk.
- Reduced Heart Rate Variability: An indicator of increased heart disease risk.
This study is not, however, the first to raise concern over states of pathological inflammation caused by flu vaccines, and vaccines in general. In 2011, the journal Vaccine published a study titled, “Inflammatory responses to trivalent influenza virus vaccine among pregnant women,” which found that flu vaccination causes measurable increases in inflammation in pregnant women which may increase the risk of preeclempsia and other adverse outcomes such as preterm birth.[iii] In this study both CRP and tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-α levels increased to concerning levels between one to two days after vaccination. Should we be surprised, considering flu vaccines still contain highly inflammatory, neurotoxic and immunotoxic heavy metals, such as mercury-based thimerosal? Even when the precautionary principle is employed, and mercury-based adjuvants removed in tacit recognition of its profound dangers, aluminum hydroxide is then used to replace it, injected directly into the bodies of healthy infants in the name of synthetically modifying and “improving” their immunity (see: Can We Continue To Justify Injecting Aluminum Into Children?).
And so, despite the fact that vaccine-induced disruption and dysregulation of a pregnant woman’s immune system could compromise her pregnancy, resulting in birth defects[iv] and miscarriage (which is a well-known phenomena within the veterinary field: vaccine-induced abortion), the CDC has defied both common sense and the precautionary principle by urging pregnant women to receive flu vaccines, without informing them of their true risks.
Infants At Risk of Pathological Inflammation Following Vaccines
Just as disturbing is the CDC’s recommendation that all infants, six months or older, receive flu vaccines on top of an already burgeoning vaccination schedule, which begins at the day of birth with the STD vaccine containing hepatitis B surface antigen, despite clear evidence that infants experience cardiorespiratory complications and C-reactive protein responses as a result of all vaccines, administered either singularly or simultaneously in combination. One 2007 study published in the Journal of Pediatrics, found that 85% of newborn infants experienced abnormal elevations of CRP when administered multiple vaccines and up to 70% in those given a single vaccine. Also, overall, 16% of infants were reported to experience vaccine-associated cardiorespiratory events within 48 hours postimmunization. [v]
Suffice it to say, vaccinating against the flu (or any pathogen) is not as safe and effective as we are being told. But please do not adopt my opinion on the matter as your own. Do your own research, and feel free to review some of the underreported and/or otherwise suppressed research on vaccination we have collated at our Vaccine Research and Education page.
*Never mind the timelessly and often cross-culturally confirmed and reconfirmed evidence contained within “orally transmitted” traditional, plant-based medical systems, used the world over.
Resources
[*=left] GreenMedInfo.com, Adverse Health Effects of Vaccination
- [ii] Gaetano A Lanza, Lucy Barone, Giancarla Scalone, Dario Pitocco, Gregory A Sgueglia, Roberto Mollo, Roberto Nerla, Francesco Zaccardi, Giovanni Ghirlanda, Filippo Crea. Inflammation-related effects of adjuvant influenza A vaccination on platelet activation and cardiac autonomic function. J Intern Med. 2010 Sep 1. Epub 2010 Sep 1. PMID: 20964738
- [iii] Lisa M Christian, Jay D Iams, Kyle Porter, Ronald Glaser. Inflammatory responses to trivalent influenza virus vaccine among pregnant women. Vaccine. 2011 Sep 20. Epub 2011 Sep 20. PMID: 21945263
- [iv] Margaret A K Ryan, Tyler C Smith, Carter J Sevick, William K Honner, Rosha A Loach, Cynthia A Moore, J David Erickson. Birth defects among infants born to women who received anthrax vaccine in pregnancy. Am J Epidemiol. 2008 Aug 15 ;168(4):434-42. Epub 2008 Jul 2. PMID: 18599489
[*=left][v] Massroor Pourcyrous, Sheldon B Korones, Kristopher L Arheart, Henrietta S Bada.Primary immunization of premature infants with gestational age<35 weeks: cardiorespiratory complications and C-reactive protein responses associated with administration of single and multiple separate vaccines simultaneously. J Pediatr. 2007 Aug ;151(2):167-72. Epub 2007 Jun 22. PMID: 17643770
Yes there are side-effects to vaccines…rarely can they be serious or fatal, this is usually in the case of an anaphylactic reaction to the preservatives contained within.
My little nephew is in the autistic spectrum and I can tell you exactly why he is that way - his piece of shit Mom decide to drink, and smoke meth and weed and who knows what else, and unfortunately the child will pay the price not her (she was going to AA and NA when hey were together but she was lying the whole time). (What is really sad is she already had two kids being raised by her grandparents, and then after having my nephew and my brother kicked her out for doing drugs ((she would get high at home while my brother was at work)), apparently she hooked up with a junkie like her and had another fucked up baby that will have emotional and behavioral problems. This is a case where I feel the state should intervene and force her tubes tied….she has set up such huge road blocks for all these poor children…she should be in prison if you ask me.
There is no solid proof that vaccines are causing our children to have Autism…we should look at the antidepressants we take, the artificial colors and flavors in the food. the pesticides and antifungals we spray, the cleaning products we use in our house…the artificial baby formula you fed your child…the pollution in the air…the radio waves and electromagnetic fields that permeate our cites and homes.
I think they will eventually find THE reason for Autism…but I don’t think it just one thing only like vaccinations…it’s more likely a combination of multiple things IMO from what I have read about it.
My little nephew is in the autistic spectrum and I can tell you exactly why he is that way - his piece of shit Mom decide to drink, and smoke meth and weed and who knows what else, and unfortunately the child will pay the price not her (she was going to AA and NA when hey were together but she was lying the whole time). (What is really sad is she already had two kids being raised by her grandparents, and then after having my nephew and my brother kicked her out for doing drugs ((she would get high at home while my brother was at work)), apparently she hooked up with a junkie like her and had another fucked up baby that will have emotional and behavioral problems. This is a case where I feel the state should intervene and force her tubes tied….she has set up such huge road blocks for all these poor children…she should be in prison if you ask me.
There is no solid proof that vaccines are causing our children to have Autism…we should look at the antidepressants we take, the artificial colors and flavors in the food. the pesticides and antifungals we spray, the cleaning products we use in our house…the artificial baby formula you fed your child…the pollution in the air…the radio waves and electromagnetic fields that permeate our cites and homes.
I think they will eventually find THE reason for Autism…but I don’t think it just one thing only like vaccinations…it’s more likely a combination of multiple things IMO from what I have read about it.
When people use words like fascism, guerrilla warfare, and other such words, I am immediately alienated when the context is health. You want a war over medicine?
I did some research, and it seems Gary Null is an extremist. Why would we listen to the doctors, let's listen to the business major.
But yeah. I don't know why anyone would give their infant an anthrax vaccine. Anthrax is incredibly rare. If you were hit by anthrax, I'm pretty sure it was a targeted terrorist attack, in which case this falls under preparedness.
I don't do drugs. Period. That doesn't include vaccines though. Your views can be whatever they want. But Vaccines are not drugs.
My stance is two things:
One, that video is poorly made. They aren't making you think about the issue, they're telling. A good documentary provokes thought and leads to individualistic response. This one did not do that. On the propaganda vs. documentary scale, it is propaganda.
Two, yes the FDA is corrupt. It is up to the individual to sort this out by working together with others to find the truth. Not Gary Null, the business man. As a parallel movement, see the water thing.
Here is what I see. FDA is told to do a job. They do it. Blindly. This is justice in its purest form, blind. If you want it to overlook certain things they're told to do, elect the right people.
I don't see him having any plan of other than "this sucks, america sucks, this is horrible". That is dumb. If you have a problem, change it. Don't go around shoving your views in my face. I would have others who are not so biased to join in. Emotion should be segregated from the information you consume.
As a note, I fall on the autism spectrum, and I'd rather it not be referred as a disorder. I hate that as well. "The FDA was a criminal" Let me say that again "The FDA was a criminal"
My face is >:C right now. The idea is that you see these horrible documentaries, but you see no action taken to organize and protest after it by the documentary creators.
Its like they want to fail.
I'm not reading the whole thread, I'm sure that'll make my head explode, but: http://www.iflscience.com/health-an...ot-apologize-and-say-flu-vaccine-doesn-t-work
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...dmit-that-this-years-flu-vaccine-doesnt-work/
I trust these because of the way they were presented to me.
The way the flu vaccine works is that you guess what is going to be prevalent this year, and base your medicine off of that. This year it is apparently going to be bad, because scientists were wrong in making the vaccine for the usual suspects.
"The single best way to prevent influenza infection is to receive vaccination every year. Some organizations have a mandatory vaccination policy. Despite this, influenza outbreaks can occur in highly vaccinated populations, especially in confined settings." - CDA
Best possible response to conditions nobody understands but the people that were there.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6342a3.htm?s_cid=mm6342a3_e
I concede that this did happen, but there is a line where one must have faith or look into the matter himself, and do their own science. This isn't science.
Sorry for the rant. Push the right buttons, and this is what you get. Especially when it is something so distasteful as sensational news, and are willing to listen to pretty much any source other than the main source, which is the FDA. Ask not Gary Null, but ask the FDA or CDA directly.
I did some research, and it seems Gary Null is an extremist. Why would we listen to the doctors, let's listen to the business major.
But yeah. I don't know why anyone would give their infant an anthrax vaccine. Anthrax is incredibly rare. If you were hit by anthrax, I'm pretty sure it was a targeted terrorist attack, in which case this falls under preparedness.
I don't do drugs. Period. That doesn't include vaccines though. Your views can be whatever they want. But Vaccines are not drugs.
My stance is two things:
One, that video is poorly made. They aren't making you think about the issue, they're telling. A good documentary provokes thought and leads to individualistic response. This one did not do that. On the propaganda vs. documentary scale, it is propaganda.
Two, yes the FDA is corrupt. It is up to the individual to sort this out by working together with others to find the truth. Not Gary Null, the business man. As a parallel movement, see the water thing.
Here is what I see. FDA is told to do a job. They do it. Blindly. This is justice in its purest form, blind. If you want it to overlook certain things they're told to do, elect the right people.
I don't see him having any plan of other than "this sucks, america sucks, this is horrible". That is dumb. If you have a problem, change it. Don't go around shoving your views in my face. I would have others who are not so biased to join in. Emotion should be segregated from the information you consume.
As a note, I fall on the autism spectrum, and I'd rather it not be referred as a disorder. I hate that as well. "The FDA was a criminal" Let me say that again "The FDA was a criminal"
My face is >:C right now. The idea is that you see these horrible documentaries, but you see no action taken to organize and protest after it by the documentary creators.
Its like they want to fail.
I'm not reading the whole thread, I'm sure that'll make my head explode, but: http://www.iflscience.com/health-an...ot-apologize-and-say-flu-vaccine-doesn-t-work
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...dmit-that-this-years-flu-vaccine-doesnt-work/
I trust these because of the way they were presented to me.
The way the flu vaccine works is that you guess what is going to be prevalent this year, and base your medicine off of that. This year it is apparently going to be bad, because scientists were wrong in making the vaccine for the usual suspects.
"The single best way to prevent influenza infection is to receive vaccination every year. Some organizations have a mandatory vaccination policy. Despite this, influenza outbreaks can occur in highly vaccinated populations, especially in confined settings." - CDA
Best possible response to conditions nobody understands but the people that were there.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6342a3.htm?s_cid=mm6342a3_e
I concede that this did happen, but there is a line where one must have faith or look into the matter himself, and do their own science. This isn't science.
Sorry for the rant. Push the right buttons, and this is what you get. Especially when it is something so distasteful as sensational news, and are willing to listen to pretty much any source other than the main source, which is the FDA. Ask not Gary Null, but ask the FDA or CDA directly.
http://mic.com/articles/109672/should-you-get-vaccinated-check-this-chart
Vaccination is about social responsibility.
You do it for society.
Vaccination is about social responsibility.
You do it for society.
